Arnt,

The EPP extension draft should be in a mature enough state to request for 
adoption in step #3, which includes an initial XML schema and a set of XML 
examples.  It’s unclear what draft-galvin-regext-epp-variants is proposing to 
do without proposing an XML schema and having sample XML for each of the 
supported commands.  Some items can be TBD and worked out based on working 
group discussion and the XML schema and XML examples can drastically change.  I 
believe inclusion of an XML schema and a set of XML examples as a minimum bar 
for EPP extension drafts that require an XML schema.  My recommendation is to 
add them to provide a clearer picture of what is being proposed.

Thanks,

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From: Arnt Gulbrandsen <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2026 at 1:08 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] Re: Call for adoption: 
draft-galvin-regext-epp-variants-05 (Ends 2026-05-25)


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Hi,

I think that's really for me to answer, since I still worked on the draft back 
then and it was I who made that choice. (Who am I? In this context I'm 
basically someone who'd listened to Jim's presentation and who knows 
internet-draft syntax etc. well enough to write one quickly.)

"Gould, James" wrote:

I don't recall a request for adoption of an EPP extension draft that didn't 
include an XML schema and corresponding example XML, [...]  Why not add it to 
the draft ahead of requesting working group adoption?

Because it didn't seem clear that the XML schema would be stable enough to be 
worth the bother. You may notice that the error codes were also left 
unallocated, for the same reason.

It seemed likely that there'd be substantive text changes, and it didn't seem 
sensible to fix the XML and error codes until the substance of the text had had 
the benefit of WG discussion. As I understood it, the process would be:


  1.  I type Jim's presentation from that meeting using proper internet-draft 
syntax
  2.  Discussion of the core concepts
  3.  Request for adoption
  4.  More discussion of core concepts
  5.  Assignment of error codes, XML syntax and other things that follow once 
the previous points are settled
  6.  Discussion of wording, examples etc
  7.  WGLC
  8.  IETF LC
  9.  Publication
It sounds to me as if you'd prefer a different sequence, with syntax earlier 
and WG adoption much later, maybe around point 6-7? Or maybe you'd have 
preferred a volunteer who happened to know XML schema as well as 
internet-drafts, and could have done that with equal ease? Anyway, you asked 
why, now you know.

Arnt

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