Hi Antoin and Jorge,

On Mon, 15 Jun 2026, at 14:40, Antoin Verschuren wrote:
> Dear WG,
>
> Apologies for the delay, but the chairs had a difficult decision to 
> make about this adoption request.
> The WG participants had many question that don’t seem related to the 
> work that still needs to be done, but more on the process and the 
> current state of the document.
> We have 3 clear in favour of adopting the work, 3 not opposing but with 
> questions about the scope of the work, and 1 objection due to missing 
> XML in the current incomplete document which is actually part of the WG 
> work yet to come.
>
> The verdict of the 2 chairs (Jorge and Antoin) is that there is 
> appetite for this work that the current document may not yet fully 
> cover.
> We therefor want to adopt this work with some advice and guidance below.
>
> With this message the chairs ask the authors to submit version 00 of a 
> working group document, that is the same as the current document, using 
> the following pre-approved draft name:
>
> draft-ietf-regext-epp-same-entity
>
> During this adoption request, no-one has volunteered yet to be a 
> document shepherd for this document.
> The chairs want to ask the authors to search for a document shepherd, 
> or if anyone still wants to volunteer to reach out to the authors.

I am happy to shepherd this document.

> Work can begin as soon as the 00 is published.
> Looking at the amount of work, the milestone for this document will be 
> September 2027.
>
> Then for some guidance:
>
> -First of all, the scope of this work is quite ambitious compared to 
> what we normally do in this WG. It is not only about EPP commands for 
> specific domains or variants, but on the general concept of 
> provisioning multiple products under 1 service. 
> This is a difficult provisioning concept for any product, not just 
> domain names, and the chairs have some concern that we might not have 
> that expertise in our working group.
> We would advise to seek the necessary expertise and address that issue 
> first. Perhaps we need a specific document first on what same entity 
> means, how it works and what processes need to be supported in addition 
> to provisioning of single product services before we create any EPP 
> extensions.
> -Adoption of work does not mean the document automatically makes it to 
> WGLC. One outcome may be that we cannot reach consensus defining a same 
> entity principle.
> -Only after we reach agreement that all aspects of a same entity 
> principle are met, we can start thinking of what that means to 
> definitions or XML schemas of how to handle all those aspects in EPP. 
> It makes no sense to start inventing the solution before we created the 
> problem statement or requirements.
> -Keep in mind that a generic solution should work for any provisioning 
> of same entities, and not focus on domain variants as the primary goal 
> which is policy.
> -We need to keep specific policy out of the technical discussion of how 
> to provision same entity products, but it’s inevitable that there is 
> some key guidance to local policy that may or may not work for a same 
> entity principle. 
> Think of processes that need to be defined and supported by a policy, 
> or specific identifiers that need to follow specific uniqueness 
> requirements that needs to be supported by a policy.
> The 2 chairs will carefully monitor that specific requirements or 
> policy of specific registries do not influence the general 
> applicability, definitions or descriptions of the same entity principle 
> and its EPP processes.

This sounds like the right approach to me.

G.

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