Hi,

14 rounds of that length is quite normal.  See Seb's post at
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2006-11/msg00015.html for
typical details.  Actually, all the posts in the thread starting at
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2006-11/msg00014.html could be
useful.  You can make this as fast as Art Palmer's Modelfree program
(http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/gsas/biochem/labs/palmer/software/modelfree.html),
but I can also modify Modelfree to be almost as slow as relax.  relax
will always be a little slower than Modelfree as the model-free code
is in numpy which is slower than Modelfree's FORTRAN.  Converting this
relax code will speed relax up a bit.  But, anyway, the major timing
difference you see if running the 2 programs on default settings is
due to an absolutely massive difference in optimization precision.
For details please see d'Auvergne, E. J. and Gooley, P. R. 2008a
(http://www.nmr-relax.com/refs.html).

Regards,

Edward


On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm on the 14th round of 'prolate' optimization at several hours per round. I
> guess I'll have to try and get errors a different way as we discussed for this
> to be reasonable in relax.
>
> Tyler
>
>
>
> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You'll need to update using:
>>
>> $ svn up
>>
>> then install as root/administrator by typing (assuming python is
>> installed as root):
>>
>> $ python setup.py install
>>
>> in the minfx base directory.  Then the crash shouldn't happen.  If it
>> does still have problems, it would be worth reporting it to the minfx
>> mailing lists (https://gna.org/mail/?group=minfx).  A bug report for
>> minfx can be submitted at
>> https://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=minfx.
>>
>> As for this taking a long time to optimise, that is because of the
>> convoluted, very tight optimisation space.  You can decrease the
>> max_iter value from 1e7 in the minimise() user function at the start
>> to to maybe 1e5, but this should not be done at the end of the
>> analysis.  I would say though that all these problems will go away
>> with a better error analysis in the R2 curve-fitting.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Tyler Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I used subversion to update minfx, but I'm still having the problem
>>> (unless I
>>> need to delete the old minfx, or does the nested update automatically 'take
>>> over' in this case?).
>>>
>>> The calculation certainly goes a lot longer now than it did before, but
>>> at k=312
>>> it crashes out with the same traceback. Another possibility is that
>>> I have to
>>> delete all the local_tm and sphere folders and just start from scratch
>>> with the
>>> new minfx, though I'm not sure that makes sense.
>>>
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Edward d'Auvergne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>> Right, I've fixed the bug in the minfx repository.  It will take me a
>>>> while to release minfx 1.0.2 but using subversion you can get the
>>>> changes immediately.  Note that as this space is so warped,
>>>> optimisation of this model will take a long, long time!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Edward d Auvergne
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Update of bug #12499 (project relax):
>>>>>
>>>>>                  Status:               Confirmed => Fixed
>>>>>             Open/Closed:                    Open => Closed
>>>>>
>>>>>    _______________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow-up Comment #5:
>>>>>
>>>>> This problem has been fixed in the minfx project
>>>>> (https://gna.org/projects/minfx/), in the bug report
>>>>> https://gna.org/bugs/?12501.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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