Sorry, the first answer is actually at
https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2012-03/msg00048.html.

Regards,

Edward



On 23 March 2012 14:35, Edward d'Auvergne <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is the answer for your second question (the first answer is at
> https://mail.gna.org/public/relax-users/2012-03/msg00047.html).  This
> appears to be a problem with the Lion version of Mac OS X.
>
> For this issue, would you be able to create a bug report?  That would
> help in sorting out the problem as it is a place to attach files/logs
> to and to keep track of everything.  It also will be useful in the
> future for other relax users who encounter the same or a similar bug,
> or if the bug returns.  The bug submission page is
> http://gna.org/bugs/?func=additem&group=relax.  It would be useful to
> include all the error messages you see in this report.  The more
> information, the better.  Other useful information would be the output
> of 'relax --info' and 'relax -g', especially if these give errors.
> You can capture all of the output by using the commands:
>
> $ ./relax --info --tee info_log
> $ ./relax --gui --tee gui_log
>
> and then attach the 'info_log' and 'gui_log' files to the bug report.  Cheers!
>
> As for the DMG (disk image) file at
> http://www.nmr-relax.com/download.html, this is fully self contained.
> This disk image includes the following:
>  - Python
>  - numpy
>  - readline
>  - scipy
>  - wxPython
>  - relax
>  - minfx (http://gna.org/projects/minfx, but bundled with all relax
> distribution packages)
>  - bmrblib (http://gna.org/projects/bmrblib, but bundled with all
> relax distribution packages)
>
> It also contains the full Mac application framework.  And it is a
> universal binary compiled for the fat3 targets (i386, x86-64 and
> ppc64).  That's why the file is so large (currently ~120 Mb).  It will
> not use anything you have installed on your system - it already comes
> with everything it will ever need and so has zero dependencies.  It
> will never touch anything you have installed.
>
> If you use the source distributions though, then you will require to
> have Python, numpy, wxPython, etc. installed on the system.  When you
> run relax in a terminal on your Mac as:
>
> $ ./relax
>
> Then relax will fall back to using your Python, numpy, etc. that you
> have installed.  Therefore the errors you get running relax in this
> way should be unrelated to those you see from the DMG file.  Hence I
> would assume that the error is in the Mac application framework!  I
> will have to check my Mac setup to see what software, and which
> version, goes into the DMG file and also do some Google searching for
> this.  I will get back to you once I know more about this Mac problem.
>  The additional information in the bug report would be of significant
> help too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> On 23 March 2012 11:09, Martin Ballaschk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dear relax-users,
>>
>> I am just beginning to record and analyze relaxation data for MF analysis. 
>> So far we collected data at 600 MHz, and a second data set at 750MHz is 
>> planned.
>>
>> I have two questions I hope you can help me with:
>>
>> 1) Temperature calibration
>>
>> We use single-scan interleaving to account for a constant temperature during 
>> the whole experimental series. We also use methanol to calibrate the 
>> spectrometer's temperature sensors. As we found out, every magnet is 
>> different and the on-screen parameters cannot be trusted. We have tables 
>> where  This procedure is not done with the T2 measurements in mind, however.
>>
>> Isn't it also important that R1 and R2 measurements have the same 
>> temperature – how do you check for that?
>>
>> How can I check differences in sample heating between different magnets due 
>> to different air-flow etc? How to compensate for these temperature 
>> differences? Do I need different pulse programs that account for temperature 
>> differences for every spectrometer? Or is the difference insignificant once 
>> the spectrometers have been calibrated?
>>
>>
>> 2)
>> In Mac OS X ("Lion", 10.7.3), the self-contained relax Application bundle is 
>> crashing and is giving just an "relax error" and the option to "terminate" 
>> or "open the Console".
>>
>> I can run the “relax” script which is sitting inside 
>> relax.app/Contents/Resources/ and I get a prompt, but only after installing 
>> numpy via Macports. If I don't, relax complains that numpy is not installed.
>>
>> After installing wxPython 2.9 via the official installer "./relax" -g is 
>> attempting to start (I can see the splash screen), but then halts with the 
>> errors.
>>
>> Interestingly, I found out today that it seems to run just fine if I run the 
>> relax binary in Contents/MacOS by dropping it onto Terminal.app!
>> (I did not test this without numpy and wXPython seperately installed.)
>>
>> What's your experience? What do you think is broken – my system (10.7) or 
>> something inside the application bundle?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
>> ***
>>
>> RELAX ERROR MESSAGES FROM THE CONSOLE
>>
>> 15.03.12 15:19:15,538 relax: relax Error
>> 15.03.12 15:19:17,667 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501:
>> ([0x0-0x14e14e].com.nmr-relax.relax[70595]) Exited with code: 255
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax: <_FuncPtr object at
>> 0x101b0dc80>
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax: Traceback (most
>> recent call last):
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:   File
>> "/Applications/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 179, in
>> <module>
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:
>> _argv_emulation()
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:   File
>> "/Applications/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 177, in
>> _argv_emulation
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:
>> _get_argvemulator().mainloop()
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:   File
>> "/Applications/relax.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 101, in
>> mainloop
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax:     stoptime =
>> Evt.TickCount() + timeout
>> 15.03.12 15:19:22,227 [0x0-0x14f14f].com.nmr-relax.relax: AttributeError:
>> 'module' object has no attribute 'TickCount'
>>
>> --
>> Martin Ballaschk
>> AG Schmieder
>> Leibniz-Institut für Molekulare Pharmakologie
>> Robert-Rössle-Str. 10
>> 13125 Berlin
>> [email protected]
>> Tel.: +49-30-94793-234/315
>> Büro: A 1.26
>> Labor: C 1.10
>>
>>
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