Hi,

I've actually found an easier way to obtain copies of the relax manual
as I make changes.  I've uploaded the file to
http://download.gna.org/relax/manual/.  The most recent copy is
relax_17348.pdf (the number is the repository revision number the
manual was created from).  Thank you for the suggestions.

Cheers,

Edward




On 27 August 2012 19:01, Edward d'Auvergne <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> The problem appears to be in the intensity files with the RelaxWarnings:
>
> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R1', '0.9262', '0.0013']
> is invalid, the residue number data '0.9262' is invalid.
>
> This tells me that the file contains a column with the 1 letter
> residue code fused with the residue number.  If so, how are TRP indole
> nitrogens handled?  Which software created this format?  The
> spectrum.read_intensities user function is expecting a peak list from
> Sparky, XEasy, NMRView, or a generic columnar formatted peak list, but
> instead the relaxation rates are being fed in, causing relax to not
> know what to do.  I would guess that an R1 or R2 analysis has been
> initialised, and the relaxation rates rather than spectral peak lists
> are being fed in.
>
> For the formatting of the rates, this should match the loaded spins
> which in this case comes from the PDB file.  Therefore the line:
>
> R1 0.9262 0.0013
>
> should be changed to:
>
> ARG 1 0.9262 0.0013
>
> The residue name and number columns can then be specified.  If you
> have indole data, then an extra column can be given for the spin name
> again matching the PDB naming (I would highly recommend using this
> additional data).
>
> I have modified the relaxation curve-fitting chapter of the relax
> manual and now give examples of the format for Sparky, XEasy, and
> NMRView peak list files.  This will only be available in the next
> released version of relax.  The changes can be obtained using the
> subversion program if you cannot wait but, as this is in the manual,
> the PDF version would need to be hand compiled (requiring the
> installation of LaTeX, scons, and dvips).
>
> As for attaching files, it is best not to do this for mailing list
> messages.  The reason is because the messages are massively amplified
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>
> If large files need to be transmitted, then the relax tracker
> infrastructure can be used.  Either a bug report
> (https://gna.org/bugs/?group=relax), a support request
> (https://gna.org/support/index.php?group=relax) or a task
> (https://gna.org/task/index.php?group=relax) can be created and the
> files attached there.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 August 2012 15:44, Nicolas Doucet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Edward,
>>
>> Thanks for the info. My student Donald and I are tinkering both with the
>> teminal version of relax and the GUI (running on Ubuntu 12.04), but ideally
>> we'd like to make the GUI work seamlessly. Please find below the first error
>> message we get when trying to run a simple R1 fit using the relax GUI. Files
>> are also attached.
>>
>> I've run ModelFree analyses with Sébastien in the distant past but this is
>> our first time running relax in my lab. I'll try to provide any information
>> worth mentioning from the perspective of a beginner with the interface. So
>> far we've been a bit disappointed by the level of step-by-step explanations
>> you'd expect to find in the manual. Python users know how to run python
>> scripts, but this is really harsh for someone like Donald with no
>> programming experience whatsoever.
>>
>> I believe this could be overcome by providing a simple example with all the
>> required files (r1, r2 and noe lists in the right format, scripts, pdb,
>> etc.). That way we could make sure our Sparky lists are edited exactly how
>> they need to be for relax, in addition to allowing the right column number
>> selection in the GUI options. I believe this might be our problem in the
>> present case.
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Nick Doucet
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas Doucet
>> Assistant Professor
>> INRS - Institut Armand-Frappier
>> University of Quebec
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>> Laval (Quebec) H7V 1B7 CANADA
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>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Below is the error message I get. I've tried multiple text formats of this
>> data (two of them are listed below), but the application doesn't seem to
>> recognize the residue number with the one in the PDB. I've changed the
>> column numbers (mol_name_col=?, res_num_col=?, res_name_col=?, etc.) and
>> tried different combinations but again, without success.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                             relax 2.1.0
>>
>>                               Molecular dynamics by NMR data analysis
>>
>>                              Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Edward d'Auvergne
>>                          Copyright (C) 2006-2012 the relax development team
>>
>> This is free software which you are welcome to modify and redistribute under
>> the conditions of the
>> GNU General Public License (GPL).  This program, including all modules, is
>> licensed under the GPL
>> and comes with absolutely no warranty.  For details type 'GPL' within the
>> relax prompt.
>>
>> Assistance in using the relax prompt and scripting interface can be accessed
>> by typing 'help' within
>> the prompt.
>>
>> Processor fabric:  Uni-processor.
>>
>>
>> relax>
>> structure.read_pdb(file='/home/dgagne/nmrdata/DG12-103_07AUG2012_NOE_of_ECP_free_form_800MHz/2012AUG19_NOE/1QMT.pdb',
>> dir=None, read_mol=None, set_mol_name=None, read_model=None,
>> set_model_num=None, parser='internal')
>>
>> Internal relax PDB parser.
>> Opening the file
>> '/home/dgagne/nmrdata/DG12-103_07AUG2012_NOE_of_ECP_free_form_800MHz/2012AUG19_NOE/1QMT.pdb'
>> for reading.
>> Adding molecule '1QMT_mol1' to model None (from the original molecule number
>> 1 of model None)
>>
>> relax> structure.load_spins(spin_id='@N', ave_pos=True)
>> Adding the following spins to the relax data store.
>>
>> # mol_name    res_num    res_name    spin_num    spin_name
>> 1QMT_mol1     0          MET         1           N
>> 1QMT_mol1     1          ARG         9           N
>> 1QMT_mol1     2          PRO         20          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     3          PRO         27          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     4          GLN         34          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     5          PHE         43          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     6          THR         54          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     7          ARG         61          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     8          ALA         72          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     9          GLN         77          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     10         TRP         86          N
>> 1QMT_mol1     11         PHE         100         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     12         ALA         111         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     13         ILE         116         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     14         GLN         124         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     15         HIS         133         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     16         ILE         143         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     17         SER         151         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     18         LEU         157         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     19         ASN         165         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     20         PRO         173         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     21         PRO         180         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     22         ARG         187         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     23         CYS         198         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     24         THR         204         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     25         ILE         211         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     26         ALA         219         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     27         MET         224         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     28         ARG         232         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     29         ALA         243         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     30         ILE         248         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     31         ASN         256         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     32         ASN         264         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     33         TYR         272         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     34         ARG         284         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     35         TRP         295         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     36         ARG         309         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     37         CYS         320         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     38         LYS         326         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     39         ASN         335         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     40         GLN         343         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     41         ASN         352         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     42         THR         360         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     43         PHE         367         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     44         LEU         378         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     45         ARG         386         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     46         THR         397         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     47         THR         404         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     48         PHE         411         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     49         ALA         422         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     50         ASN         427         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     51         VAL         435         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     52         VAL         442         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     53         ASN         449         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     54         VAL         457         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     55         CYS         464         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     56         GLY         470         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     57         ASN         474         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     58         GLN         482         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     59         SER         491         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     60         ILE         497         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     61         ARG         505         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     62         CYS         516         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     63         PRO         522         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     64         HIS         529         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     65         ASN         539         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     66         ARG         547         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     67         THR         558         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     68         LEU         565         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     69         ASN         573         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     70         ASN         581         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     71         CYS         589         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     72         HIS         595         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     73         ARG         605         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     74         SER         616         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     75         ARG         622         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     76         PHE         633         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     77         ARG         644         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     78         VAL         655         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     79         PRO         662         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     80         LEU         669         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     81         LEU         677         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     82         HIS         685         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     83         CYS         695         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     84         ASP         701         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     85         LEU         709         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     86         ILE         717         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     87         ASN         725         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     88         PRO         733         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     89         GLY         740         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     90         ALA         744         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     91         GLN         749         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     92         ASN         758         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     93         ILE         766         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     94         SER         774         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     95         ASN         780         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     96         CYS         788         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     97         ARG         794         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     98         TYR         805         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     99         ALA         817         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     100        ASP         822         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     101        ARG         830         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     102        PRO         841         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     103        GLY         848         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     104        ARG         852         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     105        ARG         863         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     106        PHE         874         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     107        TYR         885         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     108        VAL         897         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     109        VAL         904         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     110        ALA         911         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     111        CYS         916         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     112        ASP         922         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     113        ASN         930         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     114        ARG         938         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     115        ASP         949         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     116        PRO         957         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     117        ARG         964         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     118        ASP         975         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     119        SER         983         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     120        PRO         989         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     121        ARG         996         N
>> 1QMT_mol1     122        TYR         1007        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     123        PRO         1019        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     124        VAL         1026        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     125        VAL         1033        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     126        PRO         1040        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     127        VAL         1047        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     128        HIS         1054        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     129        LEU         1064        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     130        ASP         1072        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     131        THR         1080        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     132        THR         1087        N
>> 1QMT_mol1     133        ILE         1094        N
>>
>> relax>
>> spectrum.read_intensities(file='/home/dgagne/nmrdata/DG12-104_13AUG2012_T1_T2_of_ECP_free_form_800MHz/T1_Analysis/relax/DG12-104_ECP_T1rh.rates',
>> dir=None, spectrum_id=None, heteronuc='N', proton='HN', int_method='height',
>> int_col=None, spin_id_col=None, mol_name_col=1, res_num_col=2,
>> res_name_col=3, spin_num_col=4, spin_name_col=5, sep=None, spin_id=None,
>> ncproc=None)
>> Opening the file
>> '/home/dgagne/nmrdata/DG12-104_13AUG2012_T1_T2_of_ECP_free_form_800MHz/T1_Analysis/relax/DG12-104_ECP_T1rh.rates'
>> for reading.
>> Generic formatted data file.
>>
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R1', '0.9262', '0.0013'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9262' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Q4', '0.9919', '0.0066'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9919' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['F5', '0.9329', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9329' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T6', '0.9712', '0.0053'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9712' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R7', '0.9646', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9646' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A8', '1.0078', '0.0026'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0078' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Q9', '1.0152', '0.0021'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0152' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['W10', '1.0299', '0.0037'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0299' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['F11', '1.0128', '0.0036'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0128' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A12', '1.1780', '0.0057'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.1780' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I13', '0.9133', '0.0041'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9133' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Q14', '0.9041', '0.0050'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9041' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['H15', '0.9845', '0.0029'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9845' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I16', '0.9941', '0.0027'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9941' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['S17', '0.8463', '0.0021'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8463' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L18', '0.9669', '0.0018'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9669' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N19', '0.9360', '0.0036'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9360' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R22', '0.8289', '0.0039'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8289' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C23', '0.8659', '0.0021'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8659' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T24', '0.9298', '0.0034'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9298' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I25', '0.9775', '0.0028'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9775' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A26', '0.9659', '0.0008'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9659' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['M27', '0.9535', '0.0030'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9535' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R28', '1.0231', '0.0030'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0231' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A29', '0.9588', '0.0029'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9588' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I30', '0.8175', '0.0044'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8175' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N31', '1.0064', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0064' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N32', '0.9701', '0.0042'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9701' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Y33', '0.9343', '0.0023'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9343' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R34', '1.0110', '0.0050'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0110' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['W35', '0.9141', '0.0039'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9141' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R36', '0.8925', '0.0033'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8925' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C37', '0.7273', '0.0107'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.7273' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['K38', '0.8821', '0.0080'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8821' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N39', '0.6992', '0.0146'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.6992' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Q40', '1.0784', '0.0050'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0784' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N41', '0.9824', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9824' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T42', '0.8909', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8909' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L44', '0.7833', '0.0040'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.7833' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T46', '0.8507', '0.0024'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8507' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T47', '0.8184', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8184' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['F48', '0.8626', '0.0032'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8626' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A49', '0.8923', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8923' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N50', '0.8667', '0.0044'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8667' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V51', '0.9082', '0.0004'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9082' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V52', '0.9224', '0.0004'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9224' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V54', '0.9032', '0.0028'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9032' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C55', '0.9394', '0.0036'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9394' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['G56', '0.9341', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9341' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N57', '0.9412', '0.0018'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9412' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Q58', '0.7676', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.7676' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['S59', '0.9680', '0.0030'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9680' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I60', '0.9814', '0.0057'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9814' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R61', '0.9190', '0.0034'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9190' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C62', '0.9640', '0.0060'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9640' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['H64', '0.8969', '0.0087'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8969' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N65', '1.0110', '0.0050'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0110' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R66', '0.9454', '0.0014'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9454' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T67', '0.9803', '0.0010'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9803' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L68', '0.9216', '0.0051'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9216' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N69', '0.9010', '0.0036'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9010' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N70', '0.9219', '0.0230'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9219' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C71', '0.9371', '0.0033'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9371' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['H72', '0.8207', '0.0056'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8207' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['S74', '0.9350', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9350' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R75', '0.9598', '0.0014'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9598' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['F76', '20.9497', '0.1411'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '20.9497' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R77', '0.8559', '0.0023'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8559' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V78', '1.0847', '0.0133'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0847' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L80', '0.9530', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9530' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L81', '0.9453', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9453' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['H82', '0.9885', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9885' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C83', '0.7381', '0.0168'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.7381' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['D84', '1.2016', '0.0136'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.2016' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L85', '0.9213', '0.0030'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9213' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I86', '1.0334', '0.0063'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0334' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N87', '1.0182', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0182' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['G89', '0.9456', '0.0038'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9456' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A90', '0.9297', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9297' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Q91', '0.9847', '0.0013'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9847' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N92', '0.9987', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9987' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I93', '1.0320', '0.0054'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0320' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['S94', '1.0182', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0182' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N95', '1.0396', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0396' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C96', '1.0823', '0.0058'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0823' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R97', '1.0260', '0.0122'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0260' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Y98', '1.0372', '0.0040'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0372' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A99', '0.9409', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9409' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['D100', '1.0004', '0.0040'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0004' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R101', '0.8263', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8263' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['G103', '0.9267', '0.0032'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9267' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R104', '0.9999', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9999' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R105', '0.9604', '0.0015'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9604' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['F106', '1.0033', '0.0027'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0033' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Y107', '1.0069', '0.0040'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0069' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V108', '0.8934', '0.0046'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8934' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V109', '0.8593', '0.0054'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8593' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['A110', '0.8759', '0.0038'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8759' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['C111', '0.9241', '0.0023'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9241' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['D112', '0.9246', '0.0035'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9246' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N113', '0.8676', '0.0027'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8676' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R114', '0.8964', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8964' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['D115', '1.0056', '0.0046'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0056' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R117', '0.9775', '0.0031'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9775' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['N118', '0.9594', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9594' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['S119', '0.9137', '0.0019'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9137' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['R121', '0.9223', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9223' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['Y122', '0.8798', '0.0024'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8798' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V124', '0.9197', '0.0030'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9197' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V125', '0.9739', '0.0022'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9739' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['V127', '0.9175', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9175' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['H128', '0.8926', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.8926' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['L129', '0.5300', '0.0005'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.5300' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['D130', '1.0665', '0.0055'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0665' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T131', '0.9147', '0.0053'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9147' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['T132', '1.0058', '0.0032'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '1.0058' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['I133', '0.9390', '0.0016'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9390' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['W310', '0.9127', '0.0046'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9127' is invalid.
>> RelaxWarning: The sequence data in the line ['W335', '0.9756', '0.0000'] is
>> invalid, the residue number data '0.9756' is invalid.
>> RelaxError: No corresponding data could be found within the file.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2012-08-27, at 4:24 AM, Edward d'Auvergne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Welcome to the relax mailing lists - well, accidentally anyway :)  As
>> Sebastien said, please feel free to ask here if you have any
>> difficulties or problems - I should be able to help you sort out most
>> issues.  And all user feedback is most welcome!  relax is now such a
>> massive multi-developer project that I am unable to keep everything
>> perfectly up to date, so any suggestions are taken seriously.
>>
>> For the fitting of the relaxation rates, I would strongly recommend
>> relax over the Sparky fitting.  The reason is because I'm pretty sure
>> that Sparky does not use the gold standard for error propagation -
>> Monte Carlo simulations.  Hence your error estimates may not be
>> accurate and this has a strong effect on the model-free analysis.
>> Other programs, such as relax and Art Palmer's curvefit, perform the
>> error propagation properly.
>>
>> As for understanding the analysis, the analysis chapters of the relax
>> manual together with the user function documentation should hopefully
>> provide enough details.  I have just noticed that the relaxation
>> curve-fitting chapter is very much out of date!  If you use the GUI, I
>> have redesigned it so that usage should be very obvious and not
>> require any reading of the manual or user function documentation.
>> Again, if anything is not 100% obvious, any suggestions for how to
>> improve this are welcome.
>>
>> Unfortunately there is no full test data set to try the analyses on.
>> This is something I plan on adding to relax in the future once I
>> publish a paper from my PhD times.  Note though that, although a
>> single model-free calculation is extremely quick within all software
>> packages, the full highly-iterative model-free analysis protocol can
>> take between 1 to 2 weeks to complete.  relax implements this full
>> protocol into the GUI (details are available via the 'about' button in
>> the model-free analysis tab) or in the
>> sample_scripts/model_free/dauvergne_protocol.py script.  As this takes
>> such a long time, I'm not sure how useful such an example data set
>> would be.  You can always speed the analysis up by using Gary
>> Thompson's multi-processor code within relax - see the introductory
>> chapter for how to use this.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>> P. S.  You can implement one of the original model-free analysis
>> protocols from the 1990's if you can only collect single field
>> strength data.  relax is so flexible that it is capable of reproducing
>> the results from Modelfree4 and Dasha extremely accurately, you just
>> need turn the optimisation precision to very low values.  However to
>> be sure that the internal dynamics is real and not due to a slightly
>> incorrect estimate of the diffusion tensor, data at two field
>> strengths (with both temperature compensation and per-experiment
>> temperature calibration) is highly recommended.
>>
>>

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