On Saturday 16 June 2007, Tom Albers wrote:
> richmore, frederikh, deveagle, tsdgeos and me had a -spontanious-
> discussion on irc about the current state of kde in relation to the
> upcoming beta. Some of them feel we are far from ready for a public beta
> release. It seems it is basically not possible to run a kde4 desktop on a
> daily base currently and large parts of kdelibs are not yet ready for
> publications. For example all the file dialogs, we also know we have some
> problems with kssl.

the file dialog is a dlopened affair now isn't it, so it doesn't particularly 
count ...

> Also releasing a beta without key-applications seems a bit weird. Also
> raised was the problem that kde3 apps can not run a kde4 desktop
> integrated, because for example the dcop->dbus transition. If you agree to

is that ever going to change? i honestly doubt it; sounds like a red herring.

> I'm unable to determine it myself currently. I will look at it next weekend
> I hope. If anyone has an opinion, please state it.

beta will at least get more people trying it out and keep us to a schedule. 
the real interesting date is the feature freeze next month not this release.

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