El Diumenge, 10 de juny de 2012, a les 20:17:56, Wulf C. Krueger va escriure: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10.06.2012 15:27, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > >> - - Before announcing the tarballs, build the whole thing at > >> least once. > > > > We do that, that's why we have a week before the release where > > packagers get access to pre-release tarballs. > > No, that's for us packagers to "do our thing". What you give us > should, as a rule, build and install properly. > Of course, we'll notify you if things are broken but that should be > the exception, not the rule. > > Nor should offloading the burden of QA to us be the rule. You > shouldn't just throw untested tarballs at our feet and hope for the best. > > In several emails respect was asked for; I consider it highly > disrespectful to be considered a guinea pig for untested stuff. And, > please, don't tell me about manpower now - most of us aren't paid to > package KDE either and manpower is always scarce in F/OSS.
Feel free to wait until the packages are released publicly. That way you'll have packages that work > > What all of this boils down to is, I'm talking about proper QA. We > shouldn't be the ones who first compile the tarballs. Whoever creates > them should be or someone who's task to build them should be. > > There shouldn't be a single untested tarball on any (semi-)public > site. That's what developer and/or build/release management testing is > for. There is not a single untested tarball in any semipublic site. There are untested tarballs in a private site. > > > For example all the mails you are seeing about the beta2 tarballs > > are over tarballs that are not public not announced yet, so you > > can't say we don't build them, we do build them, > > No, you don't. You just told me you expect *us* to do *your* QA, your > *testing* and, ideally, sort *your* stuff out (including, according to > some, informing individual project leads). Disrespectful. *us* and *you* is *we* Cheers, Albert > > > again you are just having a different perception of the reality > > because we operate in the open instead of behind closed doors. > > Riiiight. It's all my perception only and KDE has no issues at all. ;-) > > - -- > Best regards, Wulf > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk/U5NQACgkQnuVXRcSi+5rNQQCgg1eq9dpGL6X32eggSsBqdLO4 > SekAn2vGyIgAmnNRrx48K60G3OwLH1J6 > =t3fM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > release-team mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
