El dilluns, 26 de juny de 2023, a les 22:55:44 (CEST), Albert Astals Cid va escriure: > El divendres, 23 de juny de 2023, a les 0:52:46 (CEST), Heiko Becker va > > escriure: > > On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 21:48:16 CEST, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > El dimecres, 21 de juny de 2023, a les 18:35:28 (CEST), Jonathan Riddell > > > va > > > > > > escriure: > > >> I'd like to suggest dropping ktp packages from the next KDE Gear > > >> release. > > >> Telepathy upstream is unmaintained, KTP is unmaintained and discussions > > >> with one of the original authors says it should be dropped. > > >> > > >> Modules we release are: > > >> ktp-accounts-kcm ... > > > > > > Is it working? Unless it isn't i don't see why we need to drop it. > > > > Not very pleasantly... > > > > I tried: > > > > - ICQ: doesn't work because pidgin remove support for it in 2021 because > > the protocol changed in 2017 > > - AIM: I never had an account there, but the situation is exactly the same > > as for ICQ > > - Skype: Doesn't work, but probably due to me missing > > https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin > > - Telegram: Way too shady for me to give them my phone number and I'm > > missing telepathy-morse anyway, so no idea if it works > > - Office/Bonjour: These are a tad weird, they don't error out, but the UI > > is so basic that I'm not sure how to do something with it > > - Google Hangouts: Asks to sign in with google, but that errors out after > > entering an email, maybe because it was shut down on November 1, 2022 > > - Yahoo: piding has removed it in 2016, because they totally changed the > > protocol after August 5th, 2016 > > - XMPP seems to somewhat work and I could enter a chat room > > - GG (former Gadu-Gadu): Can't register "The ability to create a new > > account has been blocked." > > Thanks for the detailed analysis. > > It seems XMPP is the only thing that seems to work. > > Given that kopete seems to also support XMPP I woud not be against removing > ktp for 23.08 given the big support for removing it. > > Hoping that existing users of KTP can keep it installed without their > distributions forcing them to remove it. > > If someone objects to the removal please make it clear before July 16th.
This has now been done. https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/release-tools/-/commit/9e8b75d787a33405a68379364d9637e7e7001328 Cheers, Albert > > Cheers, > Albert > > > So, at the very least we should remove some accounts, where the respective > > service doesn't exist/work anymore and remove ktp-call-ui, which depends > > on > > qt-gstreamer which is realldy dead and archived upstream and a pain to > > keep > > building (no idea how to test it...). > > > > But given the above, the fact that nobody seemed to care enough to notice > > that, the mentioned maintenance state of the telepathy stack and the > > apparently very low number of people willing to invest time on its > > maitenance on our side, I'm in favour of just dropping it. > > > > Regards, > > Heiko
