> "ka1uag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Skipp > You obviously didn't read the original > post..The guy has 2 repeaters and only > space for ONE antenna..
Sure I did, but I was also replying to other posts about the subject. > Yes i indeed agree 2 antenna combiners > are the way to go. Not two combiners, one close spaced spec tx combiner and one receiver distribution system are the selected wine for this evenings meal. > But it does not help this guy out... But it does supply him with some information about the single antenna combiner system. > As for freq.I use txrx stuff for this exact > app comercially and we often only have khz > of tx spacing. I'm right there with you, also have the coffee mug and tee shirt. > The reason we only use tx/rx is because > it works everytime as engineered, is > expandable without retuning the whole > system.. TxRX does make nice hardware, I have some of it in my close spaced combiner systems that I designed. Bought the bottles on Ebay cheap. There seem to be enough people in this group to talk a sincere tx-combiner project into operation (from scratch). I'm also very partial to Decibel and Telewave. > PS i'm wondering why their is a need for > 2 ham repeaters at one location on the > same band anyway.. "Need" is subjective. Much of it is ego, small weenie syndrome, empire building, fun, hate, social skills (or lake there-of), technical prowess... the list goes on and on. > Seems like an aweful waste of spectrum. Not really, one typical converstation fills the available resource. I can't stay long to hear someone talk about their surgery before I'm hitting the channel button. > I know at most of the sites I'm at commercially > and hammily, floor space and tower space are > at a premium. Not the general rule anymore. Companies like American Tower have seen fit to empty their vaults by being horible Land-Lords, especially unfriendly to a lot of longtime resident hams. > Here is an example to think about.. > There are two local clubs in this area. > Each has a 2 meter repeater at > one comercial tower site. Hopefully not paying AT's high rate... :-) > The clubs dont associate very much.. Nothing new about that. Members of one group hate the members of the other and a few travel back and forth between the repeaters. One unstable member jams quite a bit. Same story in most locations, only the players change. > Club A has had their repeater there for > many years. Its just their "backup" > repeater and has seldom use .Their main > repeater is on another mountain which > essentially has the same coverage... > Club B has a repeater at the same site > as club A's backup..Club B's repeater is > heavily used on a daily basis..BUT a new > leasing company is now the tower owner > and has decided to replace tower and is > re assesing tower space and new leases... Happens every day, life never seems to be fair to everyone. > He now finds out he has a lot of freebies > at the site and isn't too thrilled... Anyone who doesn't have a dialog with their site owner/manager is nuts and probably deserves what they get when discovered as a freebie. The last "freebie" I saw caused horible problems for the site owner who is very friendly to hams. > He says either one of you go or start > paying 300+ dollars a month for 2 spaces That's cheap compared to what AT asks. There seems to be no rhyme or reason in the rate for site rental. > ....Who goes..Or who pays? The guy paying the original rent, honestly stays. The newbie pays x-dollars by honestly making a deal or says goodbye. Both clubs should talk about a basic combiner system and a common cabinet if they know what's good for them. > This really happens ..It happened here > and could happen to you.. I see it everyday, but it will not happen to me, because I'm straight up with the site owner/operators right out of the starting gate. Many site owners will trade work for money off the rent, provided you lay the ground work, ie emergency service, search and rescue plus OES operations being the function of your box, or it should be. A little grip and grin never hurt when it comes to staying friendly with the site owner/managers. > So maybe instead of cluttering the > airwave with useless and hardly > used repeaters maybe we should work > together to put better and proper > equip on the air. Get off the decafe... it ain't gonna happen. Metro and high density areas are all about 10 gazillion repeaters, most of them sit idle. This really isn't about cluttering the airwaves with too many repeaters is it? Proper equipment is whole different subject. > And then learn to share them more with others > instead of using them for your own agenda... > One good working ,properly built and maintained > repeater is worth much more than 10 useless > pieces of junk that are just taking up valuable > spectrum.... > Just something to think about.... > Dave We can appreciate your wishfull thinking, but it won't ever fly as you would hope. People are always "different animals". Your results will probably vary. cheers dave Skipp Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
