Hello Bob, so tell me what kind of buffering Op Apm
are you using in you controllers? I've used the LM324
quad opamps but I can still tell I my audio sound
different comming out of my HT than the repeater. I am
taking my audio directly off the discrimanator going
through a opamp with de-emphasis then to the mic
input. I still don't like the way it sounds. I'm using
a motorola mitrek mobile for a repeater. Are that PM
or True FM?

May be we can converse over the phone? 


785-483-3377

Eric (N7JYS)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> As we're finding out via experiments here, there are
> other interesting 
> sources of distortion (especially in older
> technology repeaters) besides those 
> created in the audio circuits.
> 
> For example, PMs built with a varicap and LC
> resonant circuit are based on 
> the assumption that the phase shift of the circuit
> is linear as the varicap 
> voltage is changed. This isn't true because the
> phase shift follows a tangent 
> curve, thus you get more distortion at the ends of
> the curve than at the flattest 
> part.
> 
> Similarly, quadrature detectors use an LC resonant
> circuit and thus add 
> distortion of their own to the recovered audio.
> Since the distortion occurs at the 
> high end of the frequency response, tapping into
> this kind of discriminator 
> for your audio results in more distortion, not less,
> than tapping into the audio 
> after the de-emphasis. That's because the
> de-emphasis rolls off the 
> distortion products.
> 
> A surprising amount of distortion comes from
> multiplier stages that are 
> mistuned.
> 
> And, we've previously talked about the distortion
> that comes from the audio 
> 'blobs', especially from the soft action of some
> limiters.
> 
> For these reasons, I don't get too particularly
> worried about adding a couple 
> of parts in the external audio chain - - especially
> since I'm in the 
> controller business...  :-)
> 
> 73,
> Bob
> 
> 
> Bob Schmid, WA9FBO
> S-COM, LLC
> 970-416-6505 phone
> 970-419-3222 fax
> www.scomcontrollers.com
> 


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