also those cheap plastic insulators that melt to a solder iron on PL-259's 
those too I threw out cannot remember what place had em !  but absolute junk 
!

Mark Holman
Isn't Radio Fun !! ??

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From: "N�ATH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question


>
> The Teflon and silver connectors I have used absolutely will not stay 
> tight.
> Now it says Amphenol or Andrews or it doesn't go to the repeater site. Yes
> they "shor do solder purty", I am still wondering about the magic you used
> to get the aluminum soldered. Can't imagine that's actually - well you get
> the picture. Best of luck - Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question
>
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>>
>> I just made some cables for my repeater to replace the RG-213 between
>> duplexer and radios.  The only double shielded coax I could find locally
>> from my "Hook up" was something called Certified Quality Flexi 4XL 8IIA.
>> It looks like a flexible version of 9913 with a stranded center conductor
>> wraped with the poly thread and what looks like 97% outter braid,  I 
>> don't
>> know if it is silver plated or not. The inner shield will not suck solder
>> so I am assuming it is aluminum.  But I put on some teflon and silver
>> plate PL-259s using Kester 2% silver solder and I must say it was the
>> easiest solder job I did on a 259.
>>
>> The antenna feed will remain RG-213 untill I can find either RG-214 or
>> some 1/4" LDF1-50A, It is only a 15' run.
>>
>> I'll let y'all know how they work out.
>>
>>
>> James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>Foil under braid tends to make noise into duplex systems! The two
>>>dissimilar metals against each other move slightly and noise is 
>>>made.nbsp;
>>>Hardline also provides better isolation (another aid in preventing things
>>>such as PIM, desense, etc.).nbsp; Noise gets worse at closer split
>>>frequencies (ie - 600Kc split 2 meters, 500/1000Kc 6 meter)
>>>
>>>Inside cabinets, the following are all great (depending on power 
>>>out)nbsp;
>>>1/4" superflex, 1/2" superflex, RG214 (pref silver), RG142, RG400 (142 
>>>and
>>>400 are very flexible), RG393 (RG8 sized stuff, looks like 142 or 400
>>>though).nbsp; My 2 meter machine has all RG214 since the runs are short.
>>>My UHF machines all have short RG142 runs, except the high power output
>>>from the amps with 1/2" superflex or RG214. Duplexer to the polyphaser is
>>>1/2" superflex on all UHF machines.
>>>
>>>hope that answered the questions!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Scott Overstreet wrote:
>>> OK guys ---Inbsp;hear you all sayingnbsp;that hard line is better but
>>> none of you have said what is the actual problem with 9913 flex or
>>> LMR-400. In other words---What is wrong with a quality foil under braid
>>> "100%"shielded foamnbsp;cable and I'm assuming use between receiver
>>> andnbsp; duplexer, transmitter and duplexer and duplexer and antenna?
>>> nbsp; nbsp;And then the next question that follows is that inside a
>>> cabinet full of stuff where 1/2 inch hard line is just to 
>>> stiff -----what
>>> do you suggest ---and in this case assume that we are talking about 
>>> three
>>> or four repeaters----yes, receivers, transmitters, isolators and
>>> duplexers all in the same rack cabinet?
>>> nbsp; Scott
>>> N6NXI
>>>
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