Unless your test banch is inside a Fariday Cage you can'y rule out 
extraneous signals. If there is a strong transmitter near by it's 
still questionable. But you're right about off frequency or 
off "channel" signals causing quieting in the receiver. This is 
another reason for pre filtering the input to a preamp. preamps are 
generally broad banded devices. It's better to control what you are 
amplifying by 17db (read, just what's on your input frequency) than 
to amplify everything in the band by 17db. This sort of thing can 
amplify a strong co-channel signal to the point of desensing or 
overloading the receiver (hint, on 2 meters (VHF)your transmitter is 
600Kc away) even in a "quiet" area.   
73
MERRY CHRISTMAS
AC0Y


--- In [email protected], Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> >>Think about this for a minute, if the noise level increased, the 
squelch
> >>circuit would have seen MORE noise and rammed the squelch closed.
> >>What actually happened is, adding a better device in front of the
> >>receiver lowered the receivers total noise figure, decreasing 
the noise
> >>in the squelch circuit, requiring the squelch pot to be set 
tighter.
> >>Very common effect.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Common?  Must be another explanation, as you're talking apples & 
oranges 
> >here w.r.t. noise.  Remember this is FM, so more noise power at 
the front 
> >end doesn't mean more noise at the discriminator unless the 
limiter isn't 
> >being driven into limiting, which is probably what's happening.  
But adding 
> >a preamp can only add total noise power, never subtract.
> >
> >Bob NO6B
> >
> 
> If what you are saying is correct, adding the preamplifier should 
have 
> placed a receiver lacking in overall gain into full (or at least 
more) 
> limiting.  If so, this would have raised the noise level to the 
> discriminator, thus tightening the squelch.  He commented that he 
needed 
> to set the squelch pot tighter, which means there was less noise 
present 
> after the installation of the preamp.  Maybe I didn't explain it 
well, 
> but I have seen this effect before, even on the bench where 
extraneous 
> signals quieting the receiver can be ruled out.
> 
> Kevin
>








 
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