Well when i first put my uhf repeater on the air,My two antennas were 
only 25-30 feet apart same hight and i had no problems at all.I got 
some motorola duplexers and added that on the repeater and hey still 
works great.My repeater is a vertex vx-7000 uhf repeater and i useing 
motorola duplexers 19 inch rackmount.

My friend put up a two meter vhf repeater and we use split site for 
receive and tx and works out really great.This is my first time 
getting into repeaters as i have been a ham sence 1985.I have found 
that commercial folks like to sale used gear for a new price same as 
some of the hams at some of the hamfest and swap meets i go to.

Yep motorola is good but not that good to pay $500-650 for used 
duplexers and new price is like getting gas for your car.they like 
them better than i do and will even pay....Just my dime....Bobby/N2BR





--- In [email protected], "Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob thanks for the input, You are right on two meter bening the 
band
> mostly used by our members. 440 is not all that popular around here 
although
> we have one . The wide split looks like it might be a answer to the 
problem
> we have We will look into it futher. Thanks
> 
>                   Randy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Wanted
> 
> 
> > At 4/23/2006 12:23, you wrote:
> > >Yes, standard 600 KHz split. The antennas are about 25 feet about
> > >horizontally and about the same level vertically. And it works 
very well.
> > >The PL on the receiver just helps to prevent the transmitter 
from getting
> > >into the receiver. But I have run it for days without any PL and 
without
> > >any problem. So the sensitivity is just as good as the receiver 
can be.
> >
> > My guess is you have desense & don't know it.  Plain ol' TX noise 
often
> > won't open the noise squelch in a RX.
> >
> > In my applications, any desense greatly reduces the value of 
having the
> > portapeater in the first place as all the users are using HTs in 
difficult
> > locations, not far from the repeater but between tall buildings 
(downtown
> > Los Angeles).  We've tried to get them all up onto shorter 
wavelength
> bands
> > (220 & 440) but there's no getting around the fact that 2 meters 
is still
> > the most popular band.  Given the limited number of volunteers we 
get
> > nowdays, to some extent we have to cater to their equipment
> > complement.  Until a few years ago some didn't even have PL so 
the 2 meter
> > repeaters had to be carrier access; this was hard on everyone, 
being
> forced
> > to listen to blowing squelch, weak co-channel repeater users & 
IMD belches
> > all day.
> >
> > Lately we've been fortunate not only in being able to get 
everyone PL'ed,
> > but also getting everyone to program their radios for our wide-
split
> > portapeater, which uses a single antenna, small mobile duplexer & 
has no
> > desense; the whole thing fits inside a backpack.  The way we 
accomplished
> > this was to scour the internet for HT operating manuals (thanks 
Yaesu,
> > Kenwood, Icom & a little help from mods.dk), extract the info on
> > programming odd splits & compile it into a single page "cheat 
sheet" that
> > we handed out at the planning meeting.  This year I had to 
provide some
> > personal assistance with a few folks, but we got every dog gone 
radio
> > programmed.
> >
> > Getting back on topic, if your portapeater user base is 50 watt 
mobiles,
> > then I guess desense isn't much of a concern for you.
> >
> > Bob NO6B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>









 
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