On 4/23/07, Jim B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know about D-STar, since it's unique to Icom, but Aeroflex (was
> IFR) has a couple of monitors that do P25, and one of those can also do
> things like TETRA.

Understand.  This is why I personally think using something like P25
for Amateur use is better than D-Star, with their "pseudo-open"
standard.  (Yes, the protocol is open, but no one else in the world
cares... mostly... and don't build in the vocoder or the protocol in
test gear, etc.)

> General Dynamics has a couple as well, but they're a bit more bucks.
> And I'm sure there's a couple more too.

Yep... lots of gear out there for what public-safety is using, like
always!  Ham manufacturers  trying to come up with their own protocols
I think screws the people buying it, long-term.  If you can't find
test gear for it ANYWHERE, why buy it?

Icom's shooting themselves in the foot big-time with D-Star, and
taking a lot of hams interested in digital comm down their wrong path
too, in my not-so-humble opinion.  The power of money and marketing.

P25 makes a lot more sense for a properly-engineered system... and
even includes... wait for it... TALK GROUPS!  (Stupid D-Star... no
talk groups.)

Nate WY0X

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