Threaded... Bob Dengler wrote: > > At 9/6/2007 11:46 AM, you wrote: > >The relevant repeater rule is 97.205(b): > >--------------------------------------- > >(b) A repeater may receive and retransmit only on the 10 m and shorter > >wavelength frequency bands except the 28.0-29.5 MHz, 50.0-51.0 MHz, > >144.0-144.5 MHz, 145.5-146.0 MHz, 222.00-222.15 MHz, 431.0-433.0 MHz and > >435.0-438.0 MHz segments. > >---------------------------------------- > > > >Therefore, if a station is used as a repeater (in addition to ANYTHING > >else or by itself) it cannot operate between "145.5-146.0 MHz" among > >other places. It's an exclusionary rule (where it cannot operate). > > If it existed in the rules by itself, yes. The fact is you also have > 97.201(b), which permits auxiliary operation in the 145.5-145.8 segment.
Interesting that you deleted the quoted text where I mentioned 97.201(b). The point is that if it is a repeater - by itself or in addition to any other operation - it is prohibited there. The fact that it may be AUX operation IN ADDITION to that does not mean you can ignore 97.205(b). If it is both, it must be in a band that allows both. If you call the operation A and B, and type B operation is not legal in a band segment, you cannot operate mode B there no matter what else it might be. Again, the rule is exclusionary, not inclusionary. That means that if it's type B AT ALL, you cannot operate it there. There are CW bands on HF. That does not mean CW is illegal in other bands where SSB is authorized. That is in inclusionary rule - something that is allowed on frequency X but not prohibited elsewhere. The rules we are talking about are exclusionary - you may not (ever) operate in a band segment with mode B - even if you are operating modes B and A. When Part 97 says you may not do something, you may not do it - period. Otherwise, you are in violation of that rule. > >SkyCommand is Auxiliary operation (and only that as confirmed by the > >FCC), > > ...but it repeats (automatically retransmits) communications onto 2 meters, > as you've clearly indicated. How could it not also be a repeater? Because there is no input frequency when receiving HF for one thing - there is only an AUX link frequency. There is the repeating of a remotely controlled station (again, a different part of the rules), but there is no input frequency when you are receiving. Conversely, when you are transmitting, there is no output frequency. This is why IRLP and Echolink are not considered repeaters - they are retransmitting the internet - not another station. They may be connected to repeaters, but those repeaters must be in repeater sub-bands even though one of the modes they are using is not a repeater mode. This is all a moot point since the FCC has already gone on written record that SC is AUX operation, and ONLY AUX operation - combined with a remotely controlled station (97.213). That is why it was declaired illegal several years ago, and did not become legal until this year. what changed? Authorization of AUX operation on 2M. > I see no point in continuing this thread. We just agree to disagree. > > Bob NO6B Yet you did continue it... Joe M.
