An isolator is linear except with frequency just as a cap or inductor or 
feedline are.  What's in an isolator that is non-linear.  It is made of 
transmission lines, no active components...what is non-linear.  You put in x 
power, you get x-loss out until x becomes to large then you get smoke (another 
discussion).

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: Jeff DePolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2007/10/22 Mon PM 09:11:21 CDT
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: duplexer isolation and reciever 
>noise budget

>                  
>> I am not sure why an isolator would cause intermod. Usually 
>> there are not active or non-linear components in them 
>
>An isolator IS a non-linear device.
>
>> and 
>> they are often used to prevent intermod by preventing outside 
>> signals from coming in thru the feedline into the transmitter.
>
>As a nonlinear device, they will naturally generate harmonics on their own,
>and likewise act as mixers (however lossy), which is why filtering after an
>isolator is necessary.
>
>> In the past commerical sites would often require an isolator 
>> for this reason with strong transmitters close by. In better 
>> repeater equipment an isolator was built in.
>
>Yes.  The isolator "isolates" the transmitter from the antenna by diverting
>incoming (from the antenna) RF into the reject load rather than letting it
>get back into the transmitter as a way of preventing IM from occuring.  But
>in some instances, that's more of an "added bonus" than the real reason the
>isolator was built in to some stations - to protect the PA from anomalies
>that would cause high VSWR that could damage the PA or lead to instability
>issues.
>
>My concern, in the instant case, is that when the isolator is carrying
>high-level RF from the transmitter will mix with other signals coming back
>down from the antenna.  I might try a two-tone IM text on an isolator to get
>a handle on what might be expected.
>
>                               --- Jeff
>
>            


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
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