In our area, monitor 5-6 repeaters and with an area ham population of an 
estimated 700, the
repeaters are used much less than 10% during a 24 hour period.  This includes 
linked systems
and IRLP/Echolink nodes.  20 years ago the chatter was higher.  These days the 
primary use are
by a few 'channel masters', otherwise it would be pretty quiet.  Suspect cell 
phones, internet, and
24 hour movie channels contribute to the reduced usage.

73 de Jack  -  N7OO

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Barrett 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:21 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Usage of Linked Repeater Systems vs. Stand 
Alone Repeaters



  I think the main problem is TOO MANY REPEATERS J I've got a good antenna 
where I'm at and can hit every repeater in a 75-100 mile radius. as part of my 
hunting for a pair, I checked EVERY VHF repeater that I found in the K1IW 
database in a 100 mile radius.. About 30% were dead (not responding to key up 
with a courtesy tone.. but they may not have had courtesy tones turned on), and 
maybe 2-3 dozen of the rest actually with traffic on them.. Call it about 1 
repeater per city/club in the area that was actually getting used. The sample 
was taken between 4pm and 7pm (drive time) over a couple of weeks, though I 
didn't spend more than 30 minutes (less if I heard traffic) on any given 
repeater so I could have missed something. 



  I've got 4 repeaters listed In my county. only one gets any serious use, the 
other is dead except as a C3 channel for ARES and Weather Nets, and one other 
has a small group that uses it pretty exclusively.. the 4th is on the air, but 
inactive.



  People just don't have much to talk about with people too far away from them, 
pointing up the fact that repeaters are mostly social gathering places, and its 
not interesting to socialize with people you don't really know J



  I guess I'm as bad as anyone though. I stick to one repeater, monitor one 
other but rarely talk on it (just a couple of people there that I talk to, and 
they aren't on much), and ignore the rest of the repeaters around J








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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Tony L.
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:59 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Usage of Linked Repeater Systems vs. Stand Alone 
Repeaters



  Our club operates a RF full-time linked repeater system in metro New 
  York City, currently comprised of four (4) repeaters. We've observed 
  that the addition of a new repeater into the system doesn't always 
  equate to added usage. In fact, we've noticed that many of the linked 
  systems in metro NYC typically aren't as busy as local area stand alone 
  systems.

  We're puzzled as to why people seem to shy away from most, but not all, 
  of the very wide coverage area systems. The busiest repeaters in our 
  area seem to be the "no frills" stand alones. Are voice IDs, courtesy 
  tones, and coverage footprints beyond a 25-mile radius just more than 
  people can handle nowadays?

  Comments anyone?



   


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