I thought towers and repeaters went together like chocolate and peanut butter...
No, no difference - especially if it's marked like I said. I've never seen the power lines for the tower lighting marked, so if they cut through that or they cut through the tower lighting lines that are fed via Heliax, there really isn't any difference. Same purpose - same result. In fact, the way I mentioned gives more warning than the 'standard practice', so if any way is manslaughter, it's the 'standard practice' which is not marked at all. It would be hard to defend an action that has to remove warning labels or cut through them to cause the harm. Just the same as the company who digs up a buried power line and has to go through the warning tape to get to it. The installer/owner of that line is not responsible for the consequences of the actions of the company who did the damage. In fact, the company is responsible to replace the line they damaged (or at least pay for it). Lots of precedent and it's all sides with the owner/operator. For that matter, it's exactly the same if someone gets an RF burn from cutting a high power TX line. Are you responsible for the result? I think not. (and in that case there isn't even a warning, so that's more in favor of the person who got burned.) Joe M. Barry C' wrote: > Completely off topic but there is a large diff. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: [email protected] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:10:54 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft > > Same difference if they cut the light power lines. Guess anyone with a > lit tower would be guilty of it, then. > > Joe M. > > Barry C' wrote: > > > > Premeditated manslaugther .. MM nah thank but no thanks > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:05:19 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft > > > > My way is prevention. Once they hit that Heliax, they don't be > hitting > > any more tower sites - preventing the next guy and likely saving > > some of > > your lines. > > > > Your way is just "passing the problem on" to the next site. (not > meant > > as criticism per se) > > > > By weeding out all the scum, the problem is prevented. > > > > Joe M. > > > > Barry C' wrote: > > > Prevention is better than a cure ( which you keep secrete) > > > Geovision siftware and some old cctv cams is cheap connected to > some > > > sort of high intensity light source tends to slow them down ... > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:23:51 -0400 > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft > > > > > > Well, how about feeding 220 (and I'm not talking the MHz variety) > > > through a piece of Heliax to feed something on the tower like a > > light? > > > (or even as an unterminated open circuit) > > > > > > That way, when the cut through it with the rest, SURPRISE! 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