Re: 555Timer ("show me the money")

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Show me a "quad" 555 in one package.  There was one once 
> actually, the 558.  Was sold by Radio Shack.  Can't find 
> them anywhere now, though.

The 558 is still around but will more rapidly die out/off 
because of their function/logic limitations compared to the 
standard 555 design. 

The LM558 Quad timer has significant differences when compared 
to the 555 and 556 timers. The biggest issue is how individual 
LM558 timers are not designed to operate in the Astable Mode. 

> Show me a 555 used as an audio amp.

Well, although not the most practical path... the 555 output 
will directly drive a speaker. We see it used in a number of 
code practice and audio oscillator applications. Probably 
wouldn't be ultra hard to trigger or modulate the chip with a 
lower level signal... and wha'la! an audio amplifier. 

> I can build a complete COR/hangtime/TOT/audio interface using 
> one LM324 (actually, nowdays I prefer the TLV2374 - less 
> crossover distortion & better rail-to-rail performance). 

The question is... can you actually hear the difference in 
performance? or in most common basic op amp low frequency 
audio circuits, would you actually be able to see the 
performance with basic test gear? 

Hamtronics did the same functions in their COR-2 circuit using 
two 8-pin dip 555-Timer Chips, a few bipolar transistors and 
similar misc parts. The physical foot print is about the same. 

Building these type of circuits is a real hands-on electronics 
education well worth the time and money. Many of you wonder where 
the "guru types" learn this type of electronics... Build a Hamtronics 
COR-3 kit and you'll know a lot more about how this type of 
electronics works in the real world. Hard to find this type of 
education in any school. 

> 555s/556s certainly have their place, but for something as 
> simple as the above I find the rail-to-rail op amp more 
> convenient & straightforward.
> Bob NO6B

The Hamtronics COR-3 is the op-amp version of the circuit you 
describe and a later production design versus the COR-2 555 
Timer. 

Although the COR-2 information is not on the Hamtronics web page 
manual download section the complete COR-3 Manual (with circuit 
diagram) is available free. Well worth a look if you'd like to 
see how Hamtronics does it... 

cheers, 
s. 

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