Nate Duehr wrote:
> On May 11, 2008, at 9:40 PM, wd8chl wrote:
> 
>> Ron Wright wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> I tend to agree more spectrum is not needed on 2 meters just to
>>> accommodate D-Star or any other mode, digital or analog.  Many analog
>>> boys are also starving for space for their repeaters.
>>>
>>> D-Star does look for the proper D-Star format to "unsquelch" as one
>>> might say.  It does not simply turn on with signal like many analog
>>> rigs do.  The repeaters and rigs do this.
>> Right. I'm looking at provisions to monitor the frequency for NON D*
>> activity before transmitting. Most P25 radios can be set up in
>> "dual-mode" where it will also respond to analog FM with or without a
>> CTCSS/DCS code, as programmed. D* should have that, or a commercial- 
>> type
>> hangup clip arrangement, or a busy-lockout that keeps the radio from
>> transmitting if there is other activity...or the choice to program one
>> of the above.
> 
> 
> If the D-STAR repeater is receiving a signal, it's going to be sending  
> serial data up from itself through the serial cable to the  
> controller.  I haven't (and probably won't) looked at that data on the  
> serial cable (unless I buy my own D-STAR repeater... I don't feel good  
> hacking on the club system like that) but I hear some folks in  
> California have.  It would be an indication of whether or not there's  
> *receivable* D-STAR signal on any module.

Not interested in the repeater-just the radios.

I fully expect the repeaters to have an output that indicates valid 
signal (a COS-type output). Otherwise it's a waste of components.


>> Yeah...nope-they're just gonna have to live alongside the rest of us
>> that can't spend $1000 on a radio...|cP
> 
> The repeaters are far over $1000 for the band module and the  
> controller, but the user radios (other than the ID-1) are all quite a  
> bit below $1000, unless you have your heart set on the IC-2820.
> 
> You can buy TWO IC-800H's for just over the price of the signal 2820  
> with D-STAR/GPS board (the D-STAR board is included in the price of  
> the IC-800H) and have true dual-digital receive.  Just stack 'em.  :-)
> 
> The comment makes it sounds like USERS can't get into D-STAR for less  
> than $1000, which just isn't true. 

Not enough below for my tastes...Needs to be under $3-400...but I'm not 
a big Icom fan anyway...last Icom I've had good luck with was an IC-4AT...

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