_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DSTAR / DIGITAL / FCC Denies Petition to Utilize 2m Sub-Band for Digital On Thu, 15 May 2008, KF4TNP wrote: > D STAR DOES NOT NEED ITS OWN PLAN if all communication are done > correctly and thing thought out . There is plenty of room if people > would work together but too many are stuck on OLD
I would be inclined to agree with you, however most existing repeater owners are not likely to give up a repeater location, or coordination. Additionally, there are locations where it does not make simple sense to sacrafice a repeater location for the purposes of securing a digital mode. OK I agree > When I program up the radio I have all the fail soft and , and control > channels etc etc are programmed into the radios So if the system > fails. And it ends up in failsoft then one trunk channel is now for > the police , one for fire, etc etc etc. > Of course it is all how you plan the system before you deploy it . > Brent Ah, another of our land-mobile guys speaks up. Brent, in your experience of commercial trunking radio, and analyzing the D-star protocol documents, wouldn't you agree that a common channel, similar to the APRS frequency, is needed for D-star to be truly effective? Now if you look at it that way. I would say I would give that a try, it would be interesting You do make a succinct point about the nature of systems planning, however one must remember that this is "amateur" radio, and not all amateurs have experience with trunking radio, or intend to build a large system. Much as those in the data and computer networking worlds have learned (and often the hard way), it takes a lot of work and learning and making the wrong decision a few times to discover the most reliable and the most effective way to solve a problem. True > Also correct me if I am wrong there is no way to turn off the dstar > system as in remote control? Maybe on the newer systems there might > be. I have also not heard a good sounding D system yet. Just my opnion I am not familiar with the ICOM products enough to be able to answer that question -- I would think it unwise to throw that into the conversation without having a supporting reason. I will relate this: I have seen numerous commercial stations and repeaters that did not implement a remote control facility for allowing a control operator to shut the repeater down. Guilty, I have one at this time that I can not shut off. Well I can shut the whole site off That would not be nice. Kris , you make great points as describe above Where do you get the superpowers :-)- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kris%40catonic.us> us> But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly

