Desense (actual Cable-Q contributions) 

Hi John, 

There is a case where you can actually be fighting a complex 
problem with unwanted contributions actually made/introduced 
by the cable (feed-line) Q. To be more specific some combination 
of the antenna, duplexer, hardware circuit(s) in addition to 
or along with the coaxial cable. 

Where I'm going with all of this is... 

There have been example cases where unwanted product generation 
has been "fixed" by replacing portions of the antenna system 
coaxial cables with a less or lower Q cable. Some transmit 
antenna combiner low-level generation issues have been addressed 
with lower-Q coax jumpers. 

I have replaced higher-Q feed-lines with more resistive cable, 
which in more than one case has solved an otherwise pesky gremlin 
- grunge problem. 

I really like RG-214 and similar (relatively) more lossy double 
shield coaxial cables in some cases where they provide a slightly 
higher measure of resistive padding and lower Q versus rigid 
hard-line and higher Q cable. 

The double shield is a big deal... but the higher Q cable could 
very well be a portion of the grunge problem. As well as some 
problematic cable lengths (and other yet unknown issues). 

RG-214 is cheap enough to be an easy try... keeping in mind 
the "no free lunch" rule applies in many examples. As obvious 
your results will probably vary. 

One other item... pay attention to the actual RG-214 description 
aka mfgrs label as there seem to be a larger number of clone 
cables, which is not actually the mil-spec RG-214 cable "real 
deal". 

cheers, 
skipp 


> "John Transue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I don't understand it, but yesterday afternoon the 
> repeater seemed to revert to a bad case of desense. Today 
> I will try to determine why this happened. Such is life!
> JohnT
> 
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> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wits End -- Desense
> 
>  
> 
> Eric, Bob, and many other good folks,
> 
>    Success!!!! This being a holiday, I could not get RG400 to replace
> the cable from the TX to the connector on the back of the repeater, so I
> built a shield to completely enclose the cable. I also wrapped aluminum
> tape around the receive cable in the chassis. Lo! And Behold! No more
> desense!
> 
>   My sincere thanks go to all of you who have helped me through this
> most vexing problem. The repeater will be far more useful now.
> 
> Best 73s to you all,
> 
> JohnT
> 
> AF4PD
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