It seems that there are APCO P25 emergency 
functions and there are ASTRO P25 proprietary 
extensions..  The Harris infrastructure deals 
with the APCO 25 parts... but seems like ASTRO 25 
radios do not exactly. We are finding a few 
issues like this here as we have an 800 
Harris-P25 system, and while the XTS radios do 
work on it, their firmware does react differently 
as ASTRO P25 is not exactly APCO P25...

There is a check box in the ASTRO 25 RSS for 
disabling non proprietary features, it may 
help....I have tried both ways and the emergency 
clearing issue is definitely a questionable 
compliance issue in ASTRO P25 being APCO P25...

I hope the compliance lab testing gets it squared 
away as to who needs to fix it....There is also a 
busy channel lockout type hang on PTT attempts on 
ASTRO25 radios too... when we are in message 
trunking ( channel assigned per PTT ) mode... the 
XTS's are blocked from PTT for a longer than optimum time..

Doug
KD8B


At 01:41 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote:
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>We've encountered this issue between Motorola 
>infrastructure and non-Motorola subscriber 
>units... I believe at the last Daniels 
>Electronics seminar I attended, it had something 
>to do with the consoles fitting the correct 
>status bits for P25 for basic functions, 
>however, the majority of the features that 
>weren't working on the non-Motorola radios were 
>Motorola-specific non-standard status bits being 
>sent from the console. The solution for this was 
>to not use those proprietary functions of the console :(
>
>On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Andrew Seybold 
><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
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>Will—have not seen the problem but if you cannot 
>find a solution I can put you in touch with the 
>right people at Ma/COM, now Harris.
>
>
>
>Andy
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>
>
>From: 
><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
>[mailto:[email protected]] On 
>Behalf Of <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:16 AM
>To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] P25 Problem
>
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>Trying to help a friend with a problem:
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>Working on a P25 High Band trunking system.
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>Infrastructure is MA/COM.
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>Subscriber units are a mix; EF Johnson, Motorola, and MA/COM.
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>Problem:
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>When an emergency is cleared from the console
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>only the MA/COM radios are automatically cleared.
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>The Motorola and Johnson radios have to be cleared individually at the radio.
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>Anybody dealt with this type of problem?
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>Thanks,
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>Will
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