--Great...Glad to hear it.. Just remember one thing, you never did answer my original question. Contrary to your opinion, not everything has to be done your way. There are others that wotk out great.
With Great Love Howard K2IMO - In [email protected], "skipp025" <skipp...@...> wrote: > > Howard, > > As the other reply also mentions... you do not plug the > metering box in from the PL Module side... you tilt down > the Module cage and insert it into the back plane PCB holes > from that back side location. (aka dogie style). > > If you try to insert the metering plug into the same holes > via the front direction... it probably won't work (very well). > > The dis advantage of doing the MSR-2000 back-plane to external > controller method is the loss of gated dual squelch, which > acts like the Micor Squelch to eliminate crash noise. Especially > nice in/with Carrier Squelch Operation. > > Since you seem to be kind of an ungrateful mule head ... I'm > now dropping out of the thread. > > that is all... > > s. > > > "icomman1104" <hklino@> wrote: > > > > I have done rhe conversion to make the unit into a repeater anjd it is > > fully functional. Yes I did use a TS-32 for tone access. I did the > > backplane conversion which to me was not that difficult. It accomplished > > what I wanted to do. > > > > I have the test set that goes with the MSR2000 and want to be able to use > > it. Having to go to backplane and solder on to the tabs in order to meterr > > the unit to me is a bit crazy when there is a connector put on the front. > > Motorola put it there for a reason. > > > > I want to get rid of the "PL" card as it is not being used as originally > > intended. And most of all it is in the way of using the meter socket for > > the transmitter. I simply need to know what pins to jumper out this board > > and that is all. I need no other info other than this. > > > > If you don't know the answer than let me know and I will go elsewhere to > > find my answer. I don't need all this other info about other conversions > > as I will not tear the unit apart and do someone elses way just to please > > them. I just need the answer to my question. My unit works fime the way > > it is. > > > > Howard K2IMO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "skipp025" <skipp025@> wrote: > > > > > > > "icomman1104" <hklino@> wrote: > > > > First let me say that the unit was not originally a > > > > repeater. It was a base station on EMS freqs. It did > > > > not have a squelch card in it. > > > > > > Ahhh... now we get the rest of the story. Yes, the MSR-2000 > > > Base can be converted for duplex repeat operation. It's much > > > easier if you have the duplex back plane, which is the one > > > with the PL and R1-Audio Modules laying horizontal above the > > > main module slots. > > > > > > But the MSR-2000 like the Micor was optioned from the factory > > > to operate one of many possible ways and that requires jumpers > > > and certain sequence of modules come into play. > > > > > > If your now repeater was a base station (first), you need to > > > ensure a number of logic functions reach the exciter (and > > > receiver) to operate. The base station originally keyed into > > > transmit using tone or DC and there are modules in card cage > > > that provide channel element (crystal holder) ground in transmit > > > mode, which in your case is probably lead through the PL Module > > > on the way to the exciter. In repeater operation the Squelch > > > Gate Module provides the channel element ground. > > > > > > First: > > > You need to go onto the receiver and exciter board and jumper > > > the channel elements to full time on (enabled). > > > > > > You need to find the two proper manuals to service the unit, > > > one being just for the Modules in the back plane and the other > > > the RF and specific Hardware Manual for the VHF Unit (or UHF > > > unit if you have one on 450MHz). In the case of the Manual for > > > the Modules, the Micor book will sub for some things (but not > > > all). > > > > > > You need to make a choice... are you going with the back > > > plane direct connection to your external device (ham or commercial > > > controller) or are you going with the Squelch Gate Module > > > interface method? > > > > > > I would "assume" your PL Module is half duplex (normal for a > > > base station). You'll notice it is the same PC-Board as the > > > full duplex version, less the parts. You can populate the board > > > up to a full duplex version by using the chip from a normal > > > Mitrek Mobile PL Deck. Although the manual says they are different > > > part numbers, they are the same chip and I've made many a > > > duplex PL Module from half duplex units. > > > > > > Another trick I've seen is to stack the TS-32 right onto the > > > PL Module, often using a small sheet of aluminum with stand-off > > > spacers. > > > > > > If you're willing to put the serious time into a proper > > > conversion... (without giving up), we're able to try and > > > help you sort through the process. > > > > > > If someone sold you a Micor Repeater Squelch Gate Module, you > > > could simply change the end pins to the MSR type using the > > > parts from a spare card and you'd have a working SQM, same > > > as the original MSR type without the Ebay price hike. If you're > > > patient to shop around on Ebay and ask various people here > > > on the group for help... you would eventually find all the > > > parts you need to rock and roll your base station into full > > > repeater operation. > > > > > > But I also just read where you've got it working with a CAT > > > Controller and you need/want the metering socket. That doesn't > > > make much sense as you can meter both the exciter and receiver > > > from metering ports on the back plane with it tilted down > > > (as designed) for service. The original PL Module does not > > > interfere with the exciter metering as built. > > > > > > s. > > > > > > > > > I did another conversion to it that required a TS-32 or TS-64 so I put > > > it in. I wanred both incode and decod capabilities. It has a CAT > > > controller mounted where the second receiver should be. Everything works > > > great and has for over a year. > > > > > > > > Now back to the original question. In order to use the metering socket > > > > for tune-up of the transmitter, you have to trmove the "PL" card which > > > > is mounted just below the transmitter. When doing this, you lose > > > > transmit capabilities and receive. Once you plug in the test meter, > > > > you can no longer put the "PL" card back in. What I need to know is > > > > what lumpers do I have to put in inorder to be able to transmit and > > > > receive with the "PL" card removed. I have no documentation on the > > > > boards. > > > > > > > > Howard K2IMO > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "skipp025" <skipp025@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When you remove the PL Module from the back plane you lose > > > > > the reverse burst CTCSS (PL) function. What advantage would > > > > > you have/get from using a TS-32 tone board? > > > > > > > > > > You can download the external controller on an MSR-2000 > > > > > repeater information from the www.radiowrench.com/sonic web > > > > > page and it will tell you how to make the repeater operate > > > > > carrier squelch. > > > > > > > > > > First off... there are two jumpers on the Squelch Gate Module > > > > > that need to be moved over to carrier squelch or the TS-32 > > > > > needs to source the proper signals to the SQM so it will > > > > > operate. > > > > > > > > > > s. > > > > > > > > > > > "Howard Klino" <hklino@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have gotten a MSR2000 repeater working with the the "PL" card in > > > > > > it.I do not want to use this card as I have installed a TS-32 > > > > > > board. When I remove the "PL" card, both transmit and receive are > > > > > > disabled. What do I jumper to stop this from happening. It blocks > > > > > > me from using the meter jack for the transmitter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Howard K2IMO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
