"But how far can you get on the less than 9 watts you will have left after 
using a cable with that much loss?"

Pretty darn far!  In the "old" days, I used to mess with the old "packset" (pre 
handheld) radios that were available at the time.  I had one GE, pre 
"PortaMobil" that was rated at 250 milliwatta output on 150Mc that I converted 
to 2M.  I used to talk consistently and reliably from my home on the SF 
Peninsula to a station in Sacramento, about 98 miles away.  The packset was 
connected to my base antenna but that had about 80 feet of RG8 from my shop to 
the tower.  I was high and the path had little or no obstruction but it is 
still not an over-water path.  It doesn't take much power under those 
conditions.  If it were me, unless I had a VERY large powerboat, I would stick 
with a marine handheld with both NiCd and Alkaline batteries available.
Tom DGN

--- In [email protected], "Vernon Densler" <m...@...> wrote:
>
> But how far can you get on the less than 9 watts you will have left after 
> using a cable with that much loss?  
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Lowell
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> The only issue I would have with Heliax is the possiblity of cracked and 
> broken solid conductors due to vibration and repeated flexing. If I were the 
> vessel owner, I'd use a good grade (Belden or equivalent) of RG-8 (X if you 
> want). There are not a lot of terrain features out there. I'd think you could 
> talk quite a ways on 25 watts at 70 feet HAAT. 75-100 miles?
> 
>  
> 
> GL, Eric
>  
> 
> Eric Lowell
> Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
> 48 Loon Road
> Wesley ME 04686
> eme....@...
> www.satnetmaine.com
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Vernon Densler <m...@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 11:17:45 AM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use
> 
>   
> 
> I have been in a big discussion with the guys on my boat list about the right 
> coax for running up the mast for VHF marine radio.
> 
>  
> 
> Keeping in mind that we are talking about a 70’ or so run going up the 
> center of an aluminum mast, in a salt water environment, and the radio is 
> limited to 25 watts.  
> 
> Also keep in mind that when off shore this is a life line and the best 
> possible send and receive is needed in an emergency situation.  
> 
>  
> 
> So given the criteria what is the best possible coax to use knowing that 
> thickness matters and bend radiuses may be tight?  Others on the list are 
> saying “just grab any old 8X type cable and you will be fine”.  I say use 
> something with very low loss and suggested small heliax.
> 
>  
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
>  
> 
> Vern
> 
> s/v Nirvelli
> 
> KI4ONW
>


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