Eric,

Thanks for that I will have to check my CPS as  we run XTS2500's and on some
channels the squelch tail is almost deafening when the repeater drops.  I
will have to take a look and see what our settings are and get them
adjusted.

 

Thanks for the information and reply.

 

Peter Summerhawk

 

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Peter,

In the Advanced tab of the Motorola CPS, there is a check box labeled,
"Non-Standard Reverse Burst." When checked, the radio is programmed to
encode and decode CTCSS reverse burst in the 180-degree format used by
Kenwood and many other manufacturers. When unchecked- its default
condition- the reverse burst is processed in 120-degree format, which is the
Motorola standard.

This must be properly programmed for each personality, since it operates on
a per-channel basis. I use my HT1250 on a mixture of Motorola and Kenwood
repeaters, and it is really nice for it to mute silently- both on my end and
the repeater end- on all repeaters. All radios in the system must have
reverse burst operative in both encode and decode mode for this feature to
work properly. 

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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Eric,

So what settings should you have for the Motorola radios to avoid the
squelch tail in the system? Reverse burst turned on or off?

Thanks

Peter Summerhawk

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<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
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Paul,

You have put your finger on the major difference between modern Motorola and
Kenwood radios. Kenwood chose to equip their products to process only the
180-degree phase shift reverse-burst squelch tail elimination scheme, while
Motorola Professional Series radios can be programmed for either 180-degree
or 120-degree phase shift. TIA-603-C, the international standard for
land-mobile radio performance, recognizes both reverse schemes as equally
viable. Kenwood may recapture some market share, once their radios are
equipped to encode and decode reverse burst in either scheme.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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I have a TKR-750 repeater and like it. My only issue is that I use Motorola
Portables and keep getting a squelch crash. What have you guys setting the
setting for the reverse burst at to get rid of the squelch crash? 

Thanks!

Paul R. Dumdie Jr. "73"
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