Many cities utilize dark fiber provided by the cable companies (the Internet). 
WEBEOC is WEB based, ala the Internet.

Here in Arlington County the County's fiber network is mostly provided by 
Comcast Cable with some County owned fiber. 
Some commercial fiber networks are self-healing and provide better reliability 
than microwave networks used to interconnect 800 P25.

You drive across the USA and you will find every possible type of network 
implementation known to man being utilized by public safety.  I once read about 
a group that hand built from scratch 802.11 access points to construct their 
own little wireless mesh network.  It wouldn't happen in NYC where they have 
more than 10,000 fire and police employees but in a smallish county with 
10-20,000 consituents and very little tax revenues public safety has to make do.

What we would like and what we can afford is two different things.

I just recently read where the State of Georgia was just issued $165,000 Fed. 
Grant to build a D-STAR state wide network.  What a waste of tax dollars.  OH 
yeah, great technology  but how many ham volunteers in the state can afford the 
$600 handheld radios?  I don't think the grant is paying for a handheld for 
every ham in the state where currently 99% who have VHF radios are on analog.  
DUH.

Enjoy,
dave
wa3gin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Randy Ross 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet


    

  Given the inherit instability of the internet (it was NEVER designed to do 
what we are doing with it), I would consider any communications system which is 
reliant upon the internet to be flawed by design and completely untrustworthy. 



  My two cents worth. 



  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of WA3GIN
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:23 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet



    

  Yes, and they are called Intranets.  



    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Kevin Custer 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 5:55 PM

    Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet



      

    The Internet is a shared medium. A private WAN/LAN commonly utilizes 
    fiber optic cable or licensed wireless networking to accomplish 
    connectivity. While private systems can deliver Internet, it is not 
    (necessarily) THE Internet. Privately owned facilities like what many 
    CATV, Phone, Internet, and combinations of them can have dark fiber or 
    reserved virtual space that cannot get clogged with Internet overhead. 
    The bottlenecking you might experience with facilities you cannot (do 
    not) control can (will) be the downfall of such a system - unless a SLA 
    can be gotten. A SLA is a service level agreement in which a company 
    guarantees connectivity - to some degree. The more reliability the 
    agreement extends - the higher the cost.

    Kevin Custer

    > Jed Barton wrote:
    > tell me about this system a little bit. 
    > 
    >
    > You'll note that the manufacturer is not suggesting that you utilize the
    > Internet for this device. It is marketed for use on a private LAN/WAN.
    > 
    > Chuck
    > WB2EDV



  

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