Tim wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, the original used RG-58.. couldn't see using it.  Figured
> it would give me desense!
>
> As far as the amount of notch, I was surprised that the total
> was more than each one added,

Don't be - it's common for the apparent notch to be deeper than the 
measured addition of individual cavities - added together.  Don't be 
fooled, the depth was there the whole time (no black magic here), it 
just wasn't all being realized in the test set-up.  Proper interconnect 
cable lengths can do a bunch for notch depths. 

>  but with 50 watts
> coming out of the antenna port, I see -55dBm at the RX
> port. - kinda made me think the original measurements
> were ok.
>   

What you see coming out the RX port depends on several factors:  How 
good the match of the attached equipment is - at the frequency being 
tested, and the phase angle of the connecting cable.  Other factors play 
a part too, but these two play the bigger part. 


> I cut them to 35" each. (visible coax showing between each
> end of the PL-259).  Not exactly to length.  Might affect
> performance a bit.

I wouldn't have chosen UHF connectors for building the duplexer.  IMHO, 
their construction leaves a lot to be desired when trying to optimize a 
duplexer for maximum performance, unless you take their inherent flaws 
into consideration when using them.  Wacom built a good duplexer which 
uses UHF connectors, but they actually used those properties to their 
advantage.

35 inches, plus the amount inside the connector results in approximately 
37-1/2 inches of interconnecting cable.  From my calculations, I have 
extrapolated your optimum notch depth to appear on 54.44 MHz.  I 
believe, with RG-142 coax, that a length longer than 38 inches will be 
needed, depending on your exact frequency. 

 From your photo, I believe some of your problem to be the UHF connector 
and how you have it mounted.  A solid ground all around the connector is 
important to achieve a low impedance (low inductive reactance) 
connection.  I have always preferred the "Utah Cap" approach for 
building the Heliax duplexer.  It allows you to realize most/all of the 
potential of the stub.  The thicker the copper (within reason) the 
better.  Also - it looks like you might be using only one connector per 
stub.  If this is true, and you are using a UHF tee connector with the 
stub - it won't work as expected.  The electrical length of the tee will 
throw the whole thing off - this might be your biggest problem with your 
design/construction.

Kevin



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