If it wasnt Friday the 13th and I wasnt a bonehead and left my shop keys at 
home - I would check our stash for you. Can you wait til MOnday and I will?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: n3ssl 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:08 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mystery Micor problem


    
  Glenn and Group,

  You were right on the channel elment being the issue ( placed a kxn 1024 for 
uhf and right on Rx.) Now i am looking for a KXN 1019 VHF not finding any in 
boxes or ebay. anyone have one they can spare?

  Ryan n3ssl 

  --- In [email protected], Glenn Little WB4UIV 
<glennmaill...@...> wrote:
  >
  > If you have another channel element that has a crystal, I would use 
  > it to determine if the problem is in the radio or the element.
  > I suspect that the bad capacitor is in the element.
  > 
  > What is the part number of the channel element?
  > 
  > 73
  > Glenn
  > WB4UIV
  > 
  > At 10:03 PM 8/9/2010, you wrote:
  > >Glenn,
  > >Is it safe to say look in the channel element for the bad cap ?
  > >Tempeture is not a issue with this unit it was in a heated and A/C 
  > >garage kept about 65-80 degrees with dehumdifer. I am glad the new 
  > >site is climate controlled also.
  > >
  > >Ryan n3ssl
  > >
  > >--- In [email protected], Glenn Little WB4UIV 
  > ><glennmaillist@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > We had this problem in Johnson radios.
  > > > What it turned out to be was a plate of a silver mica capacitor
  > > > coming disconnected internally in the capacitor.
  > > > This caused the capacitor to shift to a lower capacitance by the
  > > > amount that the plate contributed to the capacitor.
  > > > The lower capacitance caused the radio frequency to shift high and
  > > > outside the tuning range of the netting device.
  > > > I cannot tell you what capacitor has failed.
  > > > Check the silver mica capacitors in the tuning circuit and replace
  > > > the one that is low in value.
  > > >
  > > > I also have not been in a Micor element in many years.
  > > >
  > > > Hope this helps.
  > > > This appears to be a somewhat common failure for silver mica
  > > > capacitor due to the way the capacitor is physically constructed.
  > > >
  > > > 73
  > > > Glenn
  > > > WB4UIV
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > At 09:09 PM 8/8/2010, you wrote:
  > > > >Glenn, OZ and group
  > > > >
  > > > >Its a step jump 5 khz up and get - 200 hz of crystal movment. What
  > > > >silver mica Cap is it? I have not looked inside a channel element in
  > > > >years usally send them out and trust the mfg.
  > > > >
  > > > >I also gave the crystal movement a thought but was is a temp
  > > > >controlled enviroment.
  > > > >
  > > > >Ryan
  > > > >
  > > > >--- In [email protected], Glenn Little WB4UIV
  > > > ><glennmaillist@> wrote:
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Was the shift a drift or a step jump?
  > > > > >
  > > > > > If a step jump, you probably have a bad silver mica capacitor.
  > > > > >
  > > > > > 73
  > > > > > Glenn
  > > > > > WB4UIV
  > > > > >
  > > > > > At 04:23 PM 8/8/2010, you wrote:
  > > > > > >Hi Group,
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >I have a Micor mobile set up as repeater. Worked great and was on
  > > > > > >frequency for over 8 years no problems.(lost rpt site May 2010) and
  > > > > > >have a new site to get on.The problem i am having is the TX drifted
  > > > > > >5 khz up on TX from 145.310 to 145.315. I get plenty of deviation
  > > > > > >and audio drive and 9.6 v to crystal element. I am not having any
  > > > > > >luck messing with Netting adjustment i get -200 hz max. I also have
  > > > > > >a UHF Rx unit for control installed and it is 10khz low on 
frequency.
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >The 144.710 RX crystal is right on the money for specs. Very odd
  > > > > > >situation. anyone have ideas where to check or a fluke the crystals
  > > > > > >are both bad.
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >Ryan n3ssl
  > > > > > >
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