Hi ni nhar,

Something akin to a non-free version of Replicant that supports recent
phones already exists. Please take a look at the following projects:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
https://doc.e.foundation/devices/
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

Things work the other away around compared to what you describe.
LineageOs, which is Replicant's upstream, is non-free. Replicant
documents which are the non-free components of LineageOs and
removes/replaces them.

Regards,
David

On 13/11/2019 22:20, ni nhar wrote:
>> people that think that laptops made by Purism are
>> fully free software which isn't the case.
> 
> purism is not an adequate example. I believe purism intentionally have
> misinformed people in order to have them think their products
> run on free software.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> If people also think that
>> Ubuntu, Mint or other similar GNU/Linux distributions are fully free,
>> then we have some big issue.
> 
> If you look at ubuntu.com do you see big letter warnings saying, if you 
> install ubuntu on your
> computer then you will install non free software? It does not say nowhere. It 
> is
> understandable if people do not get aware that if they install ubuntu then 
> they install
> non free software.
> 
>> fully free or not
>> get blurred
> 
> Not if you call the non free software version of replicant for repnonfree and 
> it gets its
> own website, repnonfree.com, and its website has no connection to 
> replicant.us. On repnonfree.com it should
> warn, repnonfree contains non free software. And the website should list what 
> pieces
> of non free software a given repnonfree phone contains. The website should
> tell people that repnonfree is a derivative of replicant. Tell people what 
> are the implications
> of running repnonfree instead of replicant on a phone.
> 
>> The other issue is that to get something fully free you often need to
>> have intermediate steps where you free hardware step by step.
> 
> About repnonfree you do not want fully free. You want a derivative
> of replicant which can get installed on phones sold today. You
> prioritize new phones over free software. I do not know how many replicant 
> phones
> there are. I assume it is a small number. There are a number of people, I do 
> not
> know how many, who have informed themselves to a level such that they resent
> ios and android because they think it probably surveils them in an 
> unacceptable manner. But they
> are not prepared to get a used phone in order to do something about it. For 
> them
> repnonfree could be an option.
> 
> I understand the replicant programmers who say, I am not going to make 
> anything non
> free. But if some of you do not object providing a repnonfree version, then we
> should select a phone, estimate what it would cost to make the software and 
> start
> a crowd funding for a repnonfree version.
> 
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