Github user tdas commented on a diff in the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/3798#discussion_r22436219
  
    --- Diff: 
external/kafka/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/streaming/kafka/DeterministicKafkaInputDStream.scala
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    +package org.apache.spark.streaming.kafka
    +
    +import scala.annotation.tailrec
    +import scala.reflect.{classTag, ClassTag}
    +
    +import kafka.common.TopicAndPartition
    +import kafka.message.MessageAndMetadata
    +import kafka.serializer.Decoder
    +
    +import org.apache.spark.Logging
    +import org.apache.spark.rdd.RDD
    +import org.apache.spark.rdd.kafka.{KafkaCluster, KafkaRDD}
    +import org.apache.spark.streaming.{StreamingContext, Time}
    +import org.apache.spark.streaming.dstream._
    +
    +/** A stream of {@link org.apache.spark.rdd.kafka.KafkaRDD} where
    +  * each given Kafka topic/partition corresponds to an RDD partition.
    +  * The spark configuration spark.streaming.receiver.maxRate gives the 
maximum number of messages
    +  * per second that each '''partition''' will accept.
    +  * Starting offsets are specified in advance,
    +  * and this DStream is not responsible for committing offsets,
    +  * so that you can control exactly-once semantics.
    +  * For an easy interface to Kafka-managed offsets,
    +  *  see {@link org.apache.spark.rdd.kafka.KafkaCluster}
    +  * @param kafkaParams Kafka <a 
href="http://kafka.apache.org/documentation.html#configuration";>
    +  * configuration parameters</a>.
    +  *   Requires "metadata.broker.list" or "bootstrap.servers" to be set 
with Kafka broker(s),
    +  *   NOT zookeeper servers, specified in host1:port1,host2:port2 form.
    +  * @param fromOffsets per-topic/partition Kafka offsets defining the 
(inclusive)
    +  *  starting point of the stream
    +  * @param messageHandler function for translating each message into the 
desired type
    +  * @param maxRetries maximum number of times in a row to retry getting 
leaders' offsets
    +  */
    +class DeterministicKafkaInputDStream[
    +  K: ClassTag,
    +  V: ClassTag,
    +  U <: Decoder[_]: ClassTag,
    +  T <: Decoder[_]: ClassTag,
    +  R: ClassTag](
    +    @transient ssc_ : StreamingContext,
    +    val kafkaParams: Map[String, String],
    +    val fromOffsets: Map[TopicAndPartition, Long],
    +    messageHandler: MessageAndMetadata[K, V] => R,
    +    maxRetries: Int = 1
    +) extends InputDStream[R](ssc_) with Logging {
    +
    +  private val kc = new KafkaCluster(kafkaParams)
    +
    +  private val maxMessagesPerPartition: Option[Long] = {
    +    val ratePerSec = 
ssc.sparkContext.getConf.getInt("spark.streaming.receiver.maxRate", 0)
    --- End diff --
    
    Yeah, I get it. However, this still has a different performance 
characteristics than receiver based sources. Sometimes it is better (as you are 
"always" pulling data in parallel across cluster, instead of the default 1 
receiver), sometimes it is worse (window operations that require past data 
which needs to be pulled from Kafka every time). For this method to be viable 
alternative to the existing, we ideally have to make sure that the performance 
characteristics of this method is >= performance of the existing method under 
all situations. Then using this method will be justified even if the behavior 
is different. 
    
    On that note, here is an idea of what we can do. We can store the data 
pulled from the Kafka as blocks in the BlockManager, so that subsequent 
accesses to the data (due to window or stateful ops) can be faster. One way to 
do this is to implement a `KafkaBackedBlockRDD`. This is similar to 
`WriteAheadLogBackedBlockRDD` which has the logic to either read from 
BlockManager if block is present, or reload the data from the WriteAheadLog 
based on file segment info. `KafkaBackedBlockRDD` can be similar, either read 
from BlockManager, or load it from Kafka based on offsets.


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