Github user koeninger commented on a diff in the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/3798#discussion_r22446804
  
    --- Diff: 
external/kafka/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/streaming/kafka/DeterministicKafkaInputDStream.scala
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    +package org.apache.spark.streaming.kafka
    +
    +import scala.annotation.tailrec
    +import scala.reflect.{classTag, ClassTag}
    +
    +import kafka.common.TopicAndPartition
    +import kafka.message.MessageAndMetadata
    +import kafka.serializer.Decoder
    +
    +import org.apache.spark.Logging
    +import org.apache.spark.rdd.RDD
    +import org.apache.spark.rdd.kafka.{KafkaCluster, KafkaRDD}
    +import org.apache.spark.streaming.{StreamingContext, Time}
    +import org.apache.spark.streaming.dstream._
    +
    +/** A stream of {@link org.apache.spark.rdd.kafka.KafkaRDD} where
    +  * each given Kafka topic/partition corresponds to an RDD partition.
    +  * The spark configuration spark.streaming.receiver.maxRate gives the 
maximum number of messages
    +  * per second that each '''partition''' will accept.
    +  * Starting offsets are specified in advance,
    +  * and this DStream is not responsible for committing offsets,
    +  * so that you can control exactly-once semantics.
    +  * For an easy interface to Kafka-managed offsets,
    +  *  see {@link org.apache.spark.rdd.kafka.KafkaCluster}
    +  * @param kafkaParams Kafka <a 
href="http://kafka.apache.org/documentation.html#configuration";>
    +  * configuration parameters</a>.
    +  *   Requires "metadata.broker.list" or "bootstrap.servers" to be set 
with Kafka broker(s),
    +  *   NOT zookeeper servers, specified in host1:port1,host2:port2 form.
    +  * @param fromOffsets per-topic/partition Kafka offsets defining the 
(inclusive)
    +  *  starting point of the stream
    +  * @param messageHandler function for translating each message into the 
desired type
    +  * @param maxRetries maximum number of times in a row to retry getting 
leaders' offsets
    +  */
    +class DeterministicKafkaInputDStream[
    +  K: ClassTag,
    +  V: ClassTag,
    +  U <: Decoder[_]: ClassTag,
    +  T <: Decoder[_]: ClassTag,
    +  R: ClassTag](
    +    @transient ssc_ : StreamingContext,
    +    val kafkaParams: Map[String, String],
    +    val fromOffsets: Map[TopicAndPartition, Long],
    +    messageHandler: MessageAndMetadata[K, V] => R,
    +    maxRetries: Int = 1
    +) extends InputDStream[R](ssc_) with Logging {
    +
    +  private val kc = new KafkaCluster(kafkaParams)
    +
    +  private val maxMessagesPerPartition: Option[Long] = {
    +    val ratePerSec = 
ssc.sparkContext.getConf.getInt("spark.streaming.receiver.maxRate", 0)
    --- End diff --
    
    I'm not sure specifically what you mean by "window operations that require
    past data which needs to be pulled from Kafka every time". The current
    KafkaRDD code has a log every time compute() is called on the rdd to pull
    data from kafka, and for a job with a window operation, I only see compute
    called once for a given offset range, not repeatedly every time.
    
    Regarding the bigger question of how this approach stacks up to the two
    existing approaches... they're all different approaches with different
    tradeoffs, I don't think one has to win.  I'd still have a use for the
    original receiver based class (not the WAL one), especially if SPARK-3146
    or SPARK-4960 ever get merged.
    
    On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Tathagata Das <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    
    > In
    > 
external/kafka/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/streaming/kafka/DeterministicKafkaInputDStream.scala
    > <https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/3798#discussion-diff-22436219>:
    >
    > > +  K: ClassTag,
    > > +  V: ClassTag,
    > > +  U <: Decoder[_]: ClassTag,
    > > +  T <: Decoder[_]: ClassTag,
    > > +  R: ClassTag](
    > > +    @transient ssc_ : StreamingContext,
    > > +    val kafkaParams: Map[String, String],
    > > +    val fromOffsets: Map[TopicAndPartition, Long],
    > > +    messageHandler: MessageAndMetadata[K, V] => R,
    > > +    maxRetries: Int = 1
    > > +) extends InputDStream[R](ssc_) with Logging {
    > > +
    > > +  private val kc = new KafkaCluster(kafkaParams)
    > > +
    > > +  private val maxMessagesPerPartition: Option[Long] = {
    > > +    val ratePerSec = 
ssc.sparkContext.getConf.getInt("spark.streaming.receiver.maxRate", 0)
    >
    > Yeah, I get it. However, this still has a different performance
    > characteristics than receiver based sources. Sometimes it is better (as 
you
    > are "always" pulling data in parallel across cluster, instead of the
    > default 1 receiver), sometimes it is worse (window operations that require
    > past data which needs to be pulled from Kafka every time). For this method
    > to be viable alternative to the existing, we ideally have to make sure 
that
    > the performance characteristics of this method is >= performance of the
    > existing method under all situations. Then using this method will be
    > justified even if the behavior is different.
    >
    > On that note, here is an idea of what we can do. We can store the data
    > pulled from the Kafka as blocks in the BlockManager, so that subsequent
    > accesses to the data (due to window or stateful ops) can be faster. One 
way
    > to do this is to implement a KafkaBackedBlockRDD. This is similar to
    > WriteAheadLogBackedBlockRDD which has the logic to either read from
    > BlockManager if block is present, or reload the data from the 
WriteAheadLog
    > based on file segment info. KafkaBackedBlockRDD can be similar, either
    > read from BlockManager, or load it from Kafka based on offsets.
    >
    > —
    > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub
    > <https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/3798/files#r22436219>.
    >


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