Alan DeKok <al...@deployingradius.com> writes:

>   IMHO, reality trumps wishful thinking.  If it is the official
> position of the IETF that vendors shouldn't claim compliance with an
> Internet Draft, then perhaps the IETF should ensure that useful and
> implemented Internet Drafts are (a) published as an RFC

+1

If the process to publish relevant specifications as RFCs was smooth the
issues discussed in this thread would be mostly irrelevant.

People don't _want_ to reference I-D's for widely implemented protocols.

However people will do that when the IETF fail to provide a service to
Internet users of publishing stable documents for deployed protocols.

Don't blame people for referencing I-D's.  Blame the IETF for limiting
its own usefulness.  And help implements changes in the IETF so that
drafts with a relevant community around them gets published as RFCs.
Then people will not have a need to cite I-D's any more.

> or (b) removed from public presence.

That's fine too.  It would make it clear that they are temporary working
documents.

/Simon

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