On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 11:41 AM Carsten Bormann <c...@tzi.org> wrote:
> On 2025-04-14, at 17:33, John R. Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote: > > > > Remember the point of this dicussion, that ORCID is an identifier that > is likely to help find people whose contact info has gone stale. An > "unmaintained" library catalog doesn't strike me as useful for that purpose. > > There is no doubt that ORCID is the better identifier. *Right now*. > > I just wanted to point out that there are others. > Thinking in terms of decades has taught me that properties and preferences > can change, and I wanted to point out that ORCIDs are not the only > persistent personal identifier out there that is here to stay. > What if the funding model for ORCIDs changes, what if they have some sort of split? What if the professional bodies establish similar schemes and people want their academic identifier plus their chartered engineering registration? > So I’ll stick to my main point: Design for choice. > > Specifically, make sure that the mechanisms allow for choice, even if we > currently turn out to evolve policies that prefer one of those choices. > > Grüße, Carsten > > PS.: > One of my usual less-than-perfect analogies would be URIs: Between > mid-1990s and mid-2010s, http clearly was the scheme to use. Being able to > swap in https at slightly less than herculean effort was the result of > design for choice. > That is exactly what URIs were designed for and why we need an ORCID URI so we can use them in all the other places they might be relevant that are not under our direct control. Rather than: https://orcid.org/0009-0005-3491-872X Use: orcid:0009-0005-3491-872X That is how URIs are supposed to work. The scheme says it is an orcid ID. If the orcid consortium changes structure and moves to a different site, the xml2rfc conversion points in a different place. Now we could make them work a lot better in the HTML if we go talk to W3C on this. HTML is their ball of wax after all. <head> <meta charset="UTF-8"> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"> <meta name="author" content="Phill Hallam-Baker"> <meta name="authorid" content="orcid:0009-0005-3491-872X"> <meta name= "authorid" content="eng:fbcs:023871-23"> <title>Your Page Title</title> </head> We should think the whole process through, not just what meets our short term needs.
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