On 2025-04-15 01:33, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
Rather than:
https://orcid.org/0009-0005-3491-872X
Use:
orcid:0009-0005-3491-872X
That is how URIs are supposed to work. The scheme says it is an orcid ID.
If the orcid consortium changes structure and moves to a different site,
the xml2rfc conversion points in a different place.
If they change from 'orcid', let's say to 'manolia', they surely will
not only want to change "https://orcid.org/0009-0005-3491-872X"; to
"https://manolia.org/0009-0005-3491-872X";, but also
"orcid:0009-0005-3491-872X" to "manolia:0009-0005-3491-872X". For the
former, they can do a simple redirect. For the later, there's no real
widely deployed infrastructure, neither for the redirect, nor for
getting to some data in the first place.
And I'd guess there are many more uses of
"https://orcid.org/0009-0005-3491-872X"; than of
"orcid:0009-0005-3491-872X", because the former is actionable, whereas
the later isn't (unless you convert it to
"https://orcid.org/0009-0005-3491-872X"; :-). This creates pressure to
not change "https://orcid.org/0009-0005-3491-872X";.
Now we could make them work a lot better in the HTML if we go talk to W3C
on this. HTML is their ball of wax after all.
What exactly are you suggesting? (As a side note, HTML is currently
evolved by the WHATWG, not W3C; see
https://www.w3.org/2021/06/WHATWG-W3C-MOU_2021_update.html).
<head> <meta charset="UTF-8"> <meta name="viewport"
content="width=device-width,
initial-scale=1.0"> <meta name="author" content="Phill Hallam-Baker">
<meta name="authorid" content="orcid:0009-0005-3491-872X"> <meta name=
"authorid" content="eng:fbcs:023871-23">
<title>Your Page Title</title> </head>
We should think the whole process through, not just what meets our short
term needs.
The idea of URNs is over 30 years old (see
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1737). The W3C has always used
http/htts URIs, not URNs. I don't think betting on HTTP(s) URIs now is a
short term decision.
Regards, Martin.
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