On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Bill Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>> I suspect many of us would love to see a minimal, hardened installation
>> option, or version, or channel or however it might be implemented, but
>> out-of-the-gate it would substantially meet configuration 'guidelines'
>> such as <http://www.nsa.gov/snac/os/redhat/rhel5-guide-i731.pdf>.  (or
>> those from CIS, NIST, etc)
>
> We're all for sensible security by default.

I think a serious conversation about what customers perceive to be
sensible security might be a good thing. Nothing is going to fit right
for everyone, Every time I think about how many things I need to
disable and/or remove from a server I do get a little cranky.

Perhaps some of us in the community could suggest concrete examples of
how we would like to see a RHEL server installed and configured out of
the box?

> Intentionally crippling the X server, removing module files shipped
> with the kernel, and claiming that RFCs enacted 12 years ago are 'new'
> and therefore scary?
>
> Not sensible.

Crippling? How about an option to avoid the X server altogether? Even
if buried in one of the default package options there is some
system-config-* package that requires it?

I think the bottom line is that unless the community can organize
itself to give some concrete guidance to Red Hat about what we really
want to see it is unlikely to materialize.

John

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