Ed Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> Sorry, but 'sensible security' sounds too much like politico or salesman 
> speak for "everything works out of the box!"

When the alternative is "wait, you can't talk to the network because
ISDN/bridge tools/etc. aren't installed", absolutely. 

The reason things like that are installed in the default minimal
install is that there's not a good mechanism to automatically grab
hardware-specific packages specific to your machine. If something
like that comes around, that can change.

In the meantime, "%packages --nobase" in kickstart should solve your
needs - if you're trying to install a large group of servers, you
absolutely should be using kickstart.

> Unless RedHat gets more involved in the preparation of the secure  
> configuration guides, and/or publicly documenting their disagreements  
> with specific recommendations,

Well, I'm not sure scouring the net for guides to disagree with is
practical, but critiquing some of the common ones could be useful.

> and implementing (or offering optional  
> implementation, or extra tools to help implement) a more secure  
> installation

https://fedorahosted.org/sectool ?

Bill

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