My recommendation of Mondo was based on the assumption that you wanted
to restore your OS with its configuration, not to have an up to the
second "consistent" backup (as some others assumed). Based on what
you've written below, it sounds like my assumption was correct. The idea
is to get a bootable system that has the same configuration, not track
every last entry in /var/log/messages :)

I think the kickstart + config tool is also a great option, but it
depends on the scenario. It assumes you have a kickstart server and
"management" server already installed and configured (depending on the
config tool) - if you are in a D/R scenario, that might not be a
feasible solution. 

In my normal support mode, I am using backups (with HP's Data Protector)
only to recover from a human "oops" - I can rebuild my systems in about
15 minutes with kickstart + our homegrown config tool.

One other thing to keep in mind is that Mondo is really designed to
restore back to the same physical hardware (or at least very similar
hardware) as its backing up your full system configuration.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:48 AM
To: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (Tikanga) discussion mailing-list
Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Re: Online / rootpartition backups forbare
metalrecovery



Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, John Summerfield <[email protected]>
said:
>> You cannot make good backups of files that are open for writing,
unless 
>> the application (eg dbms) itself can make the backups.
> 
> If you install on LVM, you can make backups that are at least as good
as
> "yank the plug".  If you have a database server that can flush and
> freeze on command (e.g. in the simple case MySQL), you can snapshot
the
> filesystem and release the database.  This takes just a moment (no
> shutdown required).
> 
> The only thing you can't currently do with Linux LVM is to freeze and
> snapshot all filesystems simultaneously.  So, if you have actively
> updated data spread across multiple filesystems, it may not work the
way
> you want.
> 
> The only filesystem where you can't use LVM is /boot, but I mount
/boot
> read-only except when loading updates, so it is always consistent.

Thanks to all who replied so far. I'm currently testing mondorescue,
although only in VMWare at the moment. Ed Brown made the suggestion that
I should use kickstart and a good config mgmt. system like puppet. This
would probably be the ideal solution, however to get correct, updated
kickstart configs for all the servers as well as collecting config files
into puppet and getting people to work through that seems like a lot of
work.

I'll post here how I get on, I might also ask the mondo mailing list or
forum about the online backup issue. To clarify, the data on those
machines is backed up by another mechanism. I just need to get the boot
loader, partitioning layout and operating system up and running so that
the data backups can then be restored.

Tim

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