i tremble with the stupidity of this war. if the american people allow him to enter one more country , we should all be rounded up. this allies are the terrorists, saudis. i really am afraid of the next four years. i am at that age for SS. what is he going to do? will i have something for all the years i have worked? i am 55, and still working heavey manual labor. i don't have a pension, only SS, and if he screws that, well i could be really screwed also. not that i am not now. soon i will not be able to work. one of the reasons of many that i didn't vote for the scrub was SS. and my son is of an age to be drafted. he doesn't think so as he is 27, but i think they will. he says he will go to jail first, and i hope so. rather that , but i also remember the movie about Stanlingrad were they took men over 50 and 16 year olds , put them in battle with out guns and shot them if they tried to turn back. i think what is happening, is half the population is at war with the other half. bill maher suggested we let the south(and texas) succeed again and stay out. not a bad idea i think. Ed Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One wonders how much of the U.S. job recovery is based on replacing the military hardware expended in carrying out the shock and awe illegal war on Iraq? Iran is yet to come? Whatever, Rove has won the re-election of Bush by appealing to 'moral' issues: racism and the standard right wing biases against women, gays, new migrants, Muslims, people struggling against poverty, the wider world out there:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200411/green The next step for the new term is, obviously, to kill off as many of these 'enemies' as possible. And this is what we will be watching quite literally. Presumably we will not see the returning body bags, but a few glimpses may show through of the women and children about to be blown away in Falluja: As Falluja Waits in Despair, Rebels Attack in Samarra November 7, 2004 By JAMES GLANZ and ROBERT F. WORTH Desperation settled over the citizens who remained on Saturday in Falluja, the rebel-held city on the brink of being invaded by tens of thousands of American soldiers and marines. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/international/middleeast/07iraq.html?ex=1100827843&ei=1&en=688bcc49929e2110 And down the line we will hear some fragments on the lives of poor people lost in this country through lack of adequate medical care and other omitted support systems, an occasional gay or minority police murder here or there, another execution of a juvenile. Certainly fear and depression will increase as our unholy crusade against the rest of the globe is expanded and America is isolated as the brutal rogue state that it has become: Bush Prepares for Changes in Programs and Cabinet By RICHARD W. STEVENSON President Bush's aides are preparing to move ahead with his plans to overhaul the tax code and Social Security. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/07term.html?th -- "A war is just if there is no alternative, and the resort to arms is legitimate if they represent your last hope." (Livy) -- Ed Kent 718-951-5324 (voice mail only) [blind copies] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CollegeConversation http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PeaceEfforts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EndingPoverty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/440neighborhood http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StudentConcerns ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO============================================= (4)Portals (2)News Wikis (2)Conferences - No More BuSHIT! Start here: http://pnews.org/ (On Internet since 1982) http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) ========================================================= Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rhetoric-list/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/XgSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO============================================= (4)Portals (2)News Wikis (2)Conferences - No BuSHIT! Start here: http://pnews.org/ (On Internet since 1982) http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) ========================================================= FIGHT THE RIGHT! ================== Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rhetoric-list/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
