During the Iran-Iraq War in the Eighties, ten year old boys were sent to the 
front lines.--Peggy
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  From: donnella whitacre 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:13 PM
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  i tremble with the stupidity of this war. if the american people allow him to 
enter one more country , we should all be rounded up.
  this allies are the terrorists, saudis. i really am afraid of the next four 
years. i am at that age for SS. what is he going to do? will i have something 
for all the years i have worked?
  i am 55, and still working heavey manual labor. 
  i don't have a pension, only SS, and if he screws that, well i could be 
really screwed also. not that i am not now. 
  soon i will not be able to work. one of the reasons of many that i didn't 
vote for the scrub was SS. and my son is of an age to be drafted. he doesn't 
think so as he is 27, but i think they will. 
  he says he will go to jail first, and i hope so. rather that , but i also 
remember the movie about Stanlingrad were they took men over 50 and 16 year 
olds , put them in battle with out guns and shot them if they tried to turn 
back.
  i think what is happening, is half the population is at war with the other 
half. 
  bill maher suggested we let the south(and texas) succeed again and stay out. 
not a bad idea i think.  
  Ed Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  One wonders how much of the U.S. job recovery is based on replacing the 
  military hardware expended in carrying out the shock and awe illegal war 
  on Iraq?  Iran is yet to come?  Whatever, Rove has won the re-election 
  of Bush by appealing to 'moral' issues: racism and the standard right 
  wing biases against women, gays, new migrants, Muslims, people 
  struggling against poverty, the wider world out there:

  http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200411/green

  The next step for the new term is, obviously, to kill off as many of 
  these 'enemies' as possible.  And this is what we will be watching quite 
  literally.  Presumably we will not see the returning body bags, but a 
  few glimpses may show through of the women and children about to be 
  blown away in Falluja:

  As Falluja Waits in Despair, Rebels Attack in Samarra

  November 7, 2004
    By JAMES GLANZ and ROBERT F. WORTH

  Desperation settled over the citizens who remained on
  Saturday in Falluja, the rebel-held city on the brink of
  being invaded by tens of thousands of American soldiers and
  marines.

  
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/international/middleeast/07iraq.html?ex=1100827843&ei=1&en=688bcc49929e2110

  And down the line we will hear some fragments on the lives of poor 
  people lost in this country through lack of adequate medical care and 
  other omitted support systems, an occasional gay or minority police 
  murder here or there, another execution of a juvenile.  Certainly fear 
  and depression will increase as our unholy crusade against the rest of 
  the globe is expanded and America is isolated as the brutal rogue state 
  that it has become:

  Bush Prepares for Changes in Programs and Cabinet
  By RICHARD W. STEVENSON
  President Bush's aides are preparing to move ahead with his
  plans to overhaul the tax code and Social Security.

  http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/07term.html?th
  -- 
  "A war is just if there is no alternative, and the resort
  to arms is legitimate if they represent your last hope." (Livy)
  --
  Ed Kent  718-951-5324 (voice mail only) [blind copies]
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