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In a message dated 4/16/2004 7:26:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the same thing I keep hearing. What I don't hear is that most of the "Israelis" are from europe or russia and that a majority of them are first or second generation in ther middle east, let alone Palestine. Actually, at least half of all Israelis are from Middle Eastern countries and their population is growing rapidly! (You can check the census records for yourself!) Their parents and grandparents were forced to leave their homes (and all their belongings) where they had lived for centuries when the Arab governments either made it too difficult for them to live there or actually evicted them en masse. "The various efforts for peace between Israelis and Palestinians have overlooked an important factor concerning the Arab - Israeli Conflict. The displacement of 850.000 Jews from Arab countries, the loss of all their assets and property, and the hardships accompanying their migration and emigration to Israel, constitute an aspect of the Middle East refugee problem which has been neglected. As almost half of the Jewish citizens of Israel, together with their descendants, are from Arab countries, peace research and future peace efforts should take this important part of the history of the conflict into account, and to address it, in all its complex aspects." (http://www.hsje.org/forcedmigration.htm) Another fact that you are ignoring is that the vast majority of "Palestinians" also came from Arab countries and have no relationship to Israel's land (including Judea, Samaria, and Gaza) prior to a generation or two at most! "Much of the Arab population in this area actually migrated into Israel and Judea and Samaria from the surrounding Arab countries in the past 100 years. The rebirth of Israel was accompanied by economic prosperity for the region. Arabs migrated to this area to find employment and enjoy the higher standard of living. In documents not more than hundred years, the area is described as a scarcely populated region. Jews by far were the majority in Jerusalem over the small Arab minority. Until the Oslo agreement the major source of income for Arab residents was employment in the Israeli sector. To this day, many Arabs try to migrate into Israel with various deceptions to become a citizen of Israel." (http://www.science.co.il/History-Palestine.asp) There are also a great many Israelis who can trace their ancestries back for 10 or 15 generations of unbroken residence in their Homeland, especially those who live in Jerusalem. And, until the Arabs massacred the Jews of Hebron in 1929, and the British forced the survivors to leave (much like Sharon is contemplating now in Gaza and Judea/Samaria) the same was true for the Jews there. And, if you are so sure that "Palestine", the country, goes back through most of recorded history, I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about the country of Palestine. (Don't forget to include your sources.) When was it founded and by whom? What documents are available to verify this? What were its borders prior to 1947 when Israel was formed from the Palestine Mandate? Why are the "Palestinians" not claiming Jordan as their country since it was also formed from the Palestine Mandate and they actually received the vast majority of the land in the partition? What was its capital? What were its major cities? What constituted the basis of its economy? When were its oldest institutions of higher learning established? Where are the foreign embassies located? Which countries exchange ambassadors with Palestine? What was its form of government prior to the Palestine Mandate? Who did the "Palestinians" trade with at any time prior to the past 50 years? Can you name at least one "Palestinian" president before Arafat (who is an Egyptian!)? Was Palestine ever recognized as a separate country by any nation that was not Arab itself? What date did that recognition take place? What does getting a passport from the country of Palestine require? What did it require in the 1920's? In the 1850's? What are the cultural variations that differentiate Palestine from all other Arab countries and how did they develop over the centuries? What was the name of its currency prior to 1967? What is its currency today? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date. Since there is no such country today (otherwise, what are you supposedly fighting for?), what caused its demise and when did it occur? And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call "Palestinians" are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over -- or thrown out of -- the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, then why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War? The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. The collective Arab countries have never abandoned their dream of destroying Israel; they still cherish it today. Having tried time and again to achieve their evil goal through military means and failing miserably -- losing more land every time -- they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically and deliberately called it "the Palestinian people" and installed it in Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the "West Bank" and Gaza, respectively? The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood on that land than that Native tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them. The so-called "Palestinians" have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel, and, frankly, that is not sufficient to consider them a "nation" -- or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization with an excellent propaganda machine. In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East. All the Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in their war against Israel and, as the losing side, should pay Israel reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have visited on it. The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of the PLO -- their terrorist front group -- from the land of Israel and accepting Israel's sovereignty over Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. Then the "Palestinians" could decide either to live in ISRAEL under Israeli laws or go to some other country and live under their laws. (Oh, I forgot. No Arab country will give the "Palestinians" citizenship! Did you ever wonder why?) And all the Israeli victims of "suicide bombings" should receive adequate compensation from the Arab countries who have financed the "Palestinians" for the past 40 years of their existence. That will mark the end of the "Palestinian people". You still have not proved that there was a beginning prior to 1964. 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