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My background is as mixed as most of us. One of my grandfather's was the leading biblical scholar in this country of his day. The other ran away from a cruel step mother at the age of 12 when his education more or less ended. I was a full scholarship student at Yale (which was where my grandfather had been a strong liberal influence, opening graduate studies nationally to African Americans and Jews who were largely excluded in the first quarter of the 20th century). He died young before I was born. My invitation to the nutsy secret societies came because I was the editor of the student newspaper. Already they were being seen as silly in my day. One of my classmates into such stuff a few years ago claimed that my Kent ancestors arrived in 1627 (wife) and Kent Husband) 1633 or some such. But I take that with a grain of salt. Both of my grandfathers were farm boys, which was pretty much the occuation of most people of their times. Best, Ed
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Ed:
I'm amazed that of only 15 out of about 1,000 in the Junior class (I assume that is the approximate number) that you were selected by the seniors in Skull and Bones to join them. Are you blue-blood Ed? I've known you a long time but I never would have guessed that you were in with that crowd.
If Kerry went out of his way to try to solicit a member who was an intern while Kerry was a Senator, I assume at the behest of the Seniors - then the influence factor extends way beyond the campus and it must be considered more than mere fantasy and games. I think describing it as game-like is devaluing the whole process and the Bonesman had a wholly different perspective on their importance as Bonesman. Robbins, who was also a Yalee also saw it differently and she does say that this was the most powerful secret society in the world. Why would she say that if it wasn't true? Did you know Alexandria Robbins?
Hank
My uncle, who was one of 9 children on my father's side was the first to go to a university where he studied sociology and health or social work and later taught at Pitt and then worked for the national government for several administrations assessing nursing homes (his specialty).. I used the G.I. Bill to get a degree, mostly by extension, which prepared me for a 40 year career in real estate as a developer and broker - after 8 years in the army (and 3 years in military school). Most of the cousins and our children have gone on to college.
My great grandfather in Russia was a (Jewish) lawyer and judge at a time preceding the greater difficulties to be experienced in Russia. But there have been no blue-bloods in my family. Just tailors and peasants and experienced great difficulty trying to get into the professions which in the late 1800 when there was an increase in antisemitism they fled to England and then to the U.S. My paternal grandfather's name was Cholmetsky but he changed it to an American name: Goldberg.
My wife is Jewish (almost years) Cherokee-Irish and German and Philippine. No Rothchilds and no blue-bloods in our ancestry.
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Edward Kent wrote:
For the record I was recruited for Skull and Bones and turned them down. The whole Yale senior society business is childish stuff. Certainly some of these guys (and now women) meet and bond in these "tombs" (they are windowless) and continue on relationships later. Buckley was Bones and a pernicious influence, I am sure, on many undergrads whom he courted assiduously, but I wouldn't worry about Kerry being tied into some sort of conspiracy. I actually joined another one of the things and then resigned in disgust when a dean dragged in private student records for recruitment purposes. They are childish and a carry over from 19th century fantasy stuff. Generally speaking fraternities are pernicious, but most outgrow them. Bush looks to be an exception. Best, Ed
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DOES IT MATTER that Kerry is an alumni of Skull and Bones?
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