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Sorry Donnella,

But are you saying that all Islam is butchering and suppressing?

I still have to repeat that you have to divide a religion into the
fundamentalists as opposed to the great bulk of the members.And I have left
out the progressives.

Only a tiny minority of Muslims are terrorists...the vast majority are
standing by. True...a battle is going on for their hearts and minds. The
fundamentalists are working their buts off to try to get their message
across... and sadly, George Bush is helping them by giving the idea that
Islam is under attack. But still the vast majority of Muslims are on the
sidelines.

Butchering is still going on all around the world...in Muslim countries like
Haiti (sorry, Christian), that other great Muslim country Columbia.... then
there  is Uganda, and Nepal, and a few years ago Cambodia. And,  lets count
up the number of times that leading Muslim country, the good old United
States of America, has rained bombs down on poor third and second world
countries...  Hey, maybe you're right.

No, you can't pin down the slaughter we see in the world to one
religion..Islam. Just scan your eyes over an atlas and look at how
widespread the misery and killing is.....Sri Lanka, Nepal...

Donnella, if ever there was a person who needed to free herself and open her
mind....has your city got a left-wing bookshop?...just a weeny little teensy
weensy little left-wing bookshop....where you can read about "colonialism",
and "imperialism" and other funny things like that? If not, try and order
some books through the internet. There is always an economic reason, alway
gross inequality, someone trying to make a buck...some  establishment trying
to hold on to power.

Sure, Islam is still a religion that seems left over from Mediaeval times.
In its youth it was a very promising religion that encouraged an explosion
of knowledge.... but  like many religions and sects (take Catholicism as an
example) and even countries and empires,  it seems to have got left behind.
Yes, it isn't changing much - you're right there.

But to give it the monopoly on murder - surely the USA must go down as the
main deliverer of death and destruction - on a body by body count. It's the
only country to use atomic weapons on civilians... it took over the Japanese
research from WW II on toxic weapons and nerve gases (the "hollow log"
programme), with the result that it was able to give Saddam  his various
nerve gases....  and count up the wars it has been involved in since 1945.
Well ahead of everyone else. Is the United States Muslim. Is it  not
changing? No...you're looking in the wrong direction.

Some balance is required Donnella..comfortable myths should be laid to rest.

Tony Currie


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From: "donnella whitacre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [RHETORIC] Roots of Islamic Terrorism


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> i am so aware of the wonderful job chrisitanity did there, but that is
over , the point is islam is not changeing. i mean that sarcastically as
they suppressed and butchered for centuries.
> if this was in the past(islamic conquest), but it isn't. to bad there was
no one to speak out against this when it was happening.
> you know the aztecs understood christianity after all they sacrificed
also. it started out on a volenter basis and becames something else.
> my point it not that islam is evil but it isn't changing. it needs to move
ahead and it isnt'. i have quoted progressive islamics. so all the hysteria
is unwarrented. even they speak of the need to become more moderate.
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