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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:09:51 +1000, you wrote: >|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml >|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > >I guess you have read the third book of Moses - Leviticus. Just a little >sample: > >Chapter 20 >10 If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbour, both the >adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. >11 The man who lies with his father's wife has uncovered his father's >nakedness: both of them should be put to death, their blood is upon them. >12 If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to >death: they have committed incest, their blood is upon them (That's for you >Woody Allen) >13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an >abomination; they shall be put to death... >15 If a man lies with a beast... > >And so on... there are statutes that support slavery, and the secondary role >of women...... > >Some of these statutes are still quoted by fundamentalists.... Leviticus was >widely quoted in the Anglican Church's debate on homosexuality and the right >of women to ordination. > >Most religions have very heavy little passages... which the fundamentalists >eagerly search out.... and use to brow-beat their flocks. > >I have found these quotes in the Koran too...and they are not pretty. > >But once again...your eyes are fiercely staring at the faults of the people >you perceive as your enemies....you aren't bothering to look at the same >sorts of things in the religion of your ancestors. ---------------------------------------------------- >Despite my quotes above...I am not scared of the Bible, the Torah, or the >Koran. The people I am scared of are the fundamentalists...the bigots...the >ones who take every thing literally (It's in the Torah...so it's absolutely >true)...who can't see their own faults, but only the faults of others. > ---------------------------------------------------- Anthony, Your last paragraph above is excellent! Even though you and some others seem to forget what Hank has stated time and time again in these discussions that both Judaism and Christianity have "reformed" themselves at least to the point that for _most_ who follow those religions, with the noted exception of the fundamentalists ("mental" being the operative part of that word! :-) ), these abhorrent practices are no longer followed. Islam has yet to experience a similar "reformation" where these obsolete ideas are more or less purged, at least from everyday life. It seems to me and perhaps many others, wrongly or rightly, that most Muslims are trying to live "by the Book", so to speak. And the "Book" is what Hank keeps referring to. Yes there are those in both Judaism and Christianity who might prefer to go backwards and live the life of the Bible(s), just as there are many within Islam who only wish, as do the majority of humans on the planet, to simply live in peace, and to allow the same for the "other". The problem we face _today_ however, is the fanaticism of the fundamentalist Muslim, not ALL Muslims, (although it is difficult to sometimes tell the difference) that the rest of the world has to contend with NOW. So, to those that might wish to answer: Except for your perception of Israel, can you cite any modern day examples of either Jewish or Christian terrorism as it is perceived to exist within Islam? Remember Israel, and it's rebirth are not included here, simply because of the obvious disagreement on what is terrorism. ----------------------------------- First, they came for the terrorists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a terrorist. Then they came for the foreigners, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a foreigner. Then they came for the Arab-Americans, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't Arab-American. Then they came for the radical dissenters, and I didn't speak up, because I was just an ordinary troubled citizen. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. (Adapted from Pastor Niemoller's 1945 quote about the Nazis) (Author unknown) ------------------------------------ Scott All that is necessary for Evil to triumph, is for good people to do nothing. --- / o o \ ===OO=====OO================================================http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (NewsWiki) - http://pnews.org/ (Home) http://pnews.org/vortal/ (Portal) Myth Busters/Mid-East http://g0lem.net/vortal/ (Portal) Insane Planet/Progressive http://g0lem.net/portal/ (Portal) Bad-Ass Truth/Economics http://pnews.org/portal/ (Portal) Naked Truth/Propaganda http://pnews.org/signup.shtml - (pnews-l) info // sub/unsub http://g0lem/blogspot.com/ (Blog - progressive article index) ============================================================ \_/ \_/
