The way it works.
P1 - publisher of Msg1
S1 - S3 - Subscribers to Ms1

S1 starts up, it sends an AddSubscription request to P1

P1 publish a Msg1 msg. So it sends it to S1

S2 starts up, it sends an AddSubscription request to P1


P1 publish a Msg1 msg. So it sends it to S1,S2


On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Thanks for the responses - most appreciated. Yes - I know that what
> I'm trying to do is pub/sub - I was referring to the term "load
> balancer" as that appeared to be the mechanics around the store and
> forward mechanism of publishing a message to multiple subscribers in
> RSB. I guess I was wrong about that - but I'm a bit confused as to how
> this is working then.
>
> When you say it should work out of the box - are you referring to
> pub/sub? I'm guessing I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the
> mechanics here. Process 1 publishes a message which process 2 is
> subscribed to. Process 2 then publishes a new message which processes
> A, B, and C are all subscribed to. The way I was thinking about it was
> that the message would go into a queue and then something would pick
> up the message and relay it to all the subscribers. Is that not how it
> works? If not, and the subscribers are simply watching the queue of
> the publisher, how does the publisher know when all the subscribers
> have received the message and it can pull the message from the queue?
>
> Thanks for helping!
> Matt
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > inline
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Follow-up question - I saw some activity around the load balancer in
> >> SVN after my last message and dug into it and discovered the
> >> LoadBalancerHost and it's accompanying
> >> RemoteAppDomainLoadBalancerHost. I'm not using this for my load
> >> balancer, yet it's still working - so I'm wondering what it is exactly
> >> that I've got going here... My workers are configured with load
> >> balancer endpoints but I'm not sure how the messages are getting sent
> >> to the worker queues without the MsmqLoadBalancer in play. I've been
> >> going through the RSB code but I'm not exactly sure of the flow at
> >> this point.
> >
> > We have a problem of terminology.
> > What you call load balancer I think about as pub/sub.
> > What the load balancer in RSB is supposed to accomplish is to let you
> have
> > several machines sharing the load of a single endpoint.
> > Think about it like a hardware load balancer in front of a single URL.
> >
> >>
> >> In any event - when I do try to use the LoadBalancerHost or the remote
> >> app domain loader it complains about the endpoint and threadCount
> >> properties that it's dependent on. I saw in the unit tests how you're
> >> manually specifying these values when configuring the container, but I
> >> don't have hook to do this with the LoadBalancerHost as it doesn't use
> >> a bootstrapper to configure the host before starting it, even if you
> >> specify one. I have the facility configuration in my config file,
> >> obviously, but it's not picking it up for some reason:
> >
> > It is not done yet, unfortunately.
> >
> >>
> >> public void Start()
> >> {
> >>    var container = new WindsorContainer(new XmlInterpreter());
> >>    container.Kernel.AddFacility("rhino.esb", new
> >> RhinoServiceBusFacility());
> >>    container.AddComponent<MsmqLoadBalancer>();
> >>
> >>    loadBalancer = container.Resolve<MsmqLoadBalancer>();
> >> }
> >>
> >> It blows up on the Resolve call. What am I missing?
> >>
> >> I'm assuming that if I can get this working that the new KnownWorkers
> >> public property on MsmqLoadBalancer would be the solution to my
> >> question below, where I want to know the number of workers
> >> participating in a load balanced scenario, correct?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Matt Burton <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I have a scenario where I want to have multiple subscribers to a
> >> > message such that when the message is published each picks it up and
> >> > processes it independently. In terms of config I don't want to have
> >> > the publisher know about each worker node, so I was able to get the
> >> > load balancer concept running and it works just as I had hoped.
> >> >
> >> > Question - the scenario I'm proving out here is one where I'm
> >> > provisioning software to machines, so that I receive a request to
> >> > provision a new tenant and then I publish a message to create a new
> >> > web site for that tenant on N machines. I want to be able to throw a
> >> > new box into the mix and have it participate in the process
> >> > automatically. It would be nice to know whether or not the
> >> > provisioning of the web site was successful on each machine and base
> >> > the completion of the saga on whether or not all boxes chimed in
> >> > saying they were successful. In order to do that, however, I'd need to
> >> > know how many servers were participating, something which looks like
> >> > it would require some tinkering around with the actual subscription
> >> > queues themselves to figure out.
> >> >
> >> > What would you advise in this scenario? Fire and forget for
> >> > provisioning the sites - depend on an external solution to monitor
> >> > errors? Or do I have the workers send back a thumbs up saying that
> >> > they did their job and when all report back call it good? If so, what
> >> > are my options for determining the number of subscribers in the load
> >> > balanced scenario?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Matt
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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