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On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Crap - that's too simple - can't we make it more complicated? :)
>
> Thanks for the clarification - most appreciated.
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The way it works.
> > P1 - publisher of Msg1
> > S1 - S3 - Subscribers to Ms1
> >
> > S1 starts up, it sends an AddSubscription request to P1
> > P1 publish a Msg1 msg. So it sends it to S1
> > S2 starts up, it sends an AddSubscription request to P1
> >
> > P1 publish a Msg1 msg. So it sends it to S1,S2
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the responses - most appreciated. Yes - I know that what
> >> I'm trying to do is pub/sub - I was referring to the term "load
> >> balancer" as that appeared to be the mechanics around the store and
> >> forward mechanism of publishing a message to multiple subscribers in
> >> RSB. I guess I was wrong about that - but I'm a bit confused as to how
> >> this is working then.
> >>
> >> When you say it should work out of the box - are you referring to
> >> pub/sub? I'm guessing I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the
> >> mechanics here. Process 1 publishes a message which process 2 is
> >> subscribed to. Process 2 then publishes a new message which processes
> >> A, B, and C are all subscribed to. The way I was thinking about it was
> >> that the message would go into a queue and then something would pick
> >> up the message and relay it to all the subscribers. Is that not how it
> >> works? If not, and the subscribers are simply watching the queue of
> >> the publisher, how does the publisher know when all the subscribers
> >> have received the message and it can pull the message from the queue?
> >>
> >> Thanks for helping!
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > inline
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Follow-up question - I saw some activity around the load balancer in
> >> >> SVN after my last message and dug into it and discovered the
> >> >> LoadBalancerHost and it's accompanying
> >> >> RemoteAppDomainLoadBalancerHost. I'm not using this for my load
> >> >> balancer, yet it's still working - so I'm wondering what it is
> exactly
> >> >> that I've got going here... My workers are configured with load
> >> >> balancer endpoints but I'm not sure how the messages are getting sent
> >> >> to the worker queues without the MsmqLoadBalancer in play. I've been
> >> >> going through the RSB code but I'm not exactly sure of the flow at
> >> >> this point.
> >> >
> >> > We have a problem of terminology.
> >> > What you call load balancer I think about as pub/sub.
> >> > What the load balancer in RSB is supposed to accomplish is to let you
> >> > have
> >> > several machines sharing the load of a single endpoint.
> >> > Think about it like a hardware load balancer in front of a single URL.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> In any event - when I do try to use the LoadBalancerHost or the
> remote
> >> >> app domain loader it complains about the endpoint and threadCount
> >> >> properties that it's dependent on. I saw in the unit tests how you're
> >> >> manually specifying these values when configuring the container, but
> I
> >> >> don't have hook to do this with the LoadBalancerHost as it doesn't
> use
> >> >> a bootstrapper to configure the host before starting it, even if you
> >> >> specify one. I have the facility configuration in my config file,
> >> >> obviously, but it's not picking it up for some reason:
> >> >
> >> > It is not done yet, unfortunately.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> public void Start()
> >> >> {
> >> >>    var container = new WindsorContainer(new XmlInterpreter());
> >> >>    container.Kernel.AddFacility("rhino.esb", new
> >> >> RhinoServiceBusFacility());
> >> >>    container.AddComponent<MsmqLoadBalancer>();
> >> >>
> >> >>    loadBalancer = container.Resolve<MsmqLoadBalancer>();
> >> >> }
> >> >>
> >> >> It blows up on the Resolve call. What am I missing?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm assuming that if I can get this working that the new KnownWorkers
> >> >> public property on MsmqLoadBalancer would be the solution to my
> >> >> question below, where I want to know the number of workers
> >> >> participating in a load balanced scenario, correct?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Matt
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Matt Burton <[email protected]
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > I have a scenario where I want to have multiple subscribers to a
> >> >> > message such that when the message is published each picks it up
> and
> >> >> > processes it independently. In terms of config I don't want to have
> >> >> > the publisher know about each worker node, so I was able to get the
> >> >> > load balancer concept running and it works just as I had hoped.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Question - the scenario I'm proving out here is one where I'm
> >> >> > provisioning software to machines, so that I receive a request to
> >> >> > provision a new tenant and then I publish a message to create a new
> >> >> > web site for that tenant on N machines. I want to be able to throw
> a
> >> >> > new box into the mix and have it participate in the process
> >> >> > automatically. It would be nice to know whether or not the
> >> >> > provisioning of the web site was successful on each machine and
> base
> >> >> > the completion of the saga on whether or not all boxes chimed in
> >> >> > saying they were successful. In order to do that, however, I'd need
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > know how many servers were participating, something which looks
> like
> >> >> > it would require some tinkering around with the actual subscription
> >> >> > queues themselves to figure out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What would you advise in this scenario? Fire and forget for
> >> >> > provisioning the sites - depend on an external solution to monitor
> >> >> > errors? Or do I have the workers send back a thumbs up saying that
> >> >> > they did their job and when all report back call it good? If so,
> what
> >> >> > are my options for determining the number of subscribers in the
> load
> >> >> > balanced scenario?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Matt
> >> >> >
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