Crap - that's too simple - can't we make it more complicated? :)

Thanks for the clarification - most appreciated.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> The way it works.
> P1 - publisher of Msg1
> S1 - S3 - Subscribers to Ms1
>
> S1 starts up, it sends an AddSubscription request to P1
> P1 publish a Msg1 msg. So it sends it to S1
> S2 starts up, it sends an AddSubscription request to P1
>
> P1 publish a Msg1 msg. So it sends it to S1,S2
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the responses - most appreciated. Yes - I know that what
>> I'm trying to do is pub/sub - I was referring to the term "load
>> balancer" as that appeared to be the mechanics around the store and
>> forward mechanism of publishing a message to multiple subscribers in
>> RSB. I guess I was wrong about that - but I'm a bit confused as to how
>> this is working then.
>>
>> When you say it should work out of the box - are you referring to
>> pub/sub? I'm guessing I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the
>> mechanics here. Process 1 publishes a message which process 2 is
>> subscribed to. Process 2 then publishes a new message which processes
>> A, B, and C are all subscribed to. The way I was thinking about it was
>> that the message would go into a queue and then something would pick
>> up the message and relay it to all the subscribers. Is that not how it
>> works? If not, and the subscribers are simply watching the queue of
>> the publisher, how does the publisher know when all the subscribers
>> have received the message and it can pull the message from the queue?
>>
>> Thanks for helping!
>> Matt
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > inline
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Matt Burton <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Follow-up question - I saw some activity around the load balancer in
>> >> SVN after my last message and dug into it and discovered the
>> >> LoadBalancerHost and it's accompanying
>> >> RemoteAppDomainLoadBalancerHost. I'm not using this for my load
>> >> balancer, yet it's still working - so I'm wondering what it is exactly
>> >> that I've got going here... My workers are configured with load
>> >> balancer endpoints but I'm not sure how the messages are getting sent
>> >> to the worker queues without the MsmqLoadBalancer in play. I've been
>> >> going through the RSB code but I'm not exactly sure of the flow at
>> >> this point.
>> >
>> > We have a problem of terminology.
>> > What you call load balancer I think about as pub/sub.
>> > What the load balancer in RSB is supposed to accomplish is to let you
>> > have
>> > several machines sharing the load of a single endpoint.
>> > Think about it like a hardware load balancer in front of a single URL.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> In any event - when I do try to use the LoadBalancerHost or the remote
>> >> app domain loader it complains about the endpoint and threadCount
>> >> properties that it's dependent on. I saw in the unit tests how you're
>> >> manually specifying these values when configuring the container, but I
>> >> don't have hook to do this with the LoadBalancerHost as it doesn't use
>> >> a bootstrapper to configure the host before starting it, even if you
>> >> specify one. I have the facility configuration in my config file,
>> >> obviously, but it's not picking it up for some reason:
>> >
>> > It is not done yet, unfortunately.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> public void Start()
>> >> {
>> >>    var container = new WindsorContainer(new XmlInterpreter());
>> >>    container.Kernel.AddFacility("rhino.esb", new
>> >> RhinoServiceBusFacility());
>> >>    container.AddComponent<MsmqLoadBalancer>();
>> >>
>> >>    loadBalancer = container.Resolve<MsmqLoadBalancer>();
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> It blows up on the Resolve call. What am I missing?
>> >>
>> >> I'm assuming that if I can get this working that the new KnownWorkers
>> >> public property on MsmqLoadBalancer would be the solution to my
>> >> question below, where I want to know the number of workers
>> >> participating in a load balanced scenario, correct?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Matt Burton <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I have a scenario where I want to have multiple subscribers to a
>> >> > message such that when the message is published each picks it up and
>> >> > processes it independently. In terms of config I don't want to have
>> >> > the publisher know about each worker node, so I was able to get the
>> >> > load balancer concept running and it works just as I had hoped.
>> >> >
>> >> > Question - the scenario I'm proving out here is one where I'm
>> >> > provisioning software to machines, so that I receive a request to
>> >> > provision a new tenant and then I publish a message to create a new
>> >> > web site for that tenant on N machines. I want to be able to throw a
>> >> > new box into the mix and have it participate in the process
>> >> > automatically. It would be nice to know whether or not the
>> >> > provisioning of the web site was successful on each machine and base
>> >> > the completion of the saga on whether or not all boxes chimed in
>> >> > saying they were successful. In order to do that, however, I'd need
>> >> > to
>> >> > know how many servers were participating, something which looks like
>> >> > it would require some tinkering around with the actual subscription
>> >> > queues themselves to figure out.
>> >> >
>> >> > What would you advise in this scenario? Fire and forget for
>> >> > provisioning the sites - depend on an external solution to monitor
>> >> > errors? Or do I have the workers send back a thumbs up saying that
>> >> > they did their job and when all report back call it good? If so, what
>> >> > are my options for determining the number of subscribers in the load
>> >> > balanced scenario?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Matt
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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