On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:36, Dave King <djk...@gmail.com> wrote: > You asked what difference the tm made. The tm invokes clause 6. So yes it > means moving forward means a new name. That's one of the things to be > considered.
Agree, so if we’re sticking to the subject, “Is Riak dead?” the worst case is: “No, but potentially the name could be some time in the future”, right? I asked rhetorically what difference the TM made. I’ve also read the license, and taken legal advice. This was not in any way a surprise. > > - Peace > Dave > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Russell Brown <russell.br...@mac.com> wrote: > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:28, Dave King <djk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > No, but I can read. > > I read it too. I’m not sure what your point is. A day may come when the name > has to change? > > > > > - Peace > > Dave > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Russell Brown <russell.br...@mac.com> > > wrote: > > > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:26, Dave King <djk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 6. Trademarks. This License does not grant permission to use the trade > > > names, trademarks, service marks, or product names of the Licensor, > > > except as required for reasonable and customary use in describing the > > > origin of the Work and reproducing the content of the NOTICE file. > > > > > > So At minimum I read that as there would need to be a new product name, > > > and the docs for that product could say formerly known as Riak. > > > > You are lawyer? > > > > > > > > - Peace > > > Dave > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Russell Brown <russell.br...@mac.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:17, Dave King <djk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Looks like Basho has the trademark on Riak. > > > > http://www.trademarkia.com/riak-77954950.html > > > > > > They sure do. And if you look at the Apache2 license you’ll see that it > > > grants use of the name to identify the source. > > > > > > Look, I’m not a lawyer, and I’m guessing you’re not a lawyer. What > > > difference does the name or trademark make? There are a bunch of active > > > users of Riak, some of whom have made it clear they plan to continue > > > using it. Dance on Basho’s grave all you want, but Riak isn’t dead yet. > > > > > > > > > > > - Peace > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Alexander Sicular <sicul...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:32, Russell Brown <russell.br...@mac.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean “encumbered”? Riak is the name of an Apache2 > > > > > licensed open source database, so it can continue to be used to > > > > > describe that apache 2 licensed database, please don’t spread FUD. > > > > > > > > You willing to invest time in a project that could be legally > > > > encumbered at some point in the future because lawyers? You willing to > > > > put that beyond the clown fiesta that is Basho? I don't think so. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > riak-users mailing list > > > > riak-users@lists.basho.com > > > > http://lists.basho.com/mailman/listinfo/riak-users_lists.basho.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ riak-users mailing list riak-users@lists.basho.com http://lists.basho.com/mailman/listinfo/riak-users_lists.basho.com
