Hi Alan, I have nothing against the evolution of communication tools, protocols etc. Yes, why not to evolve Rietveld mailing list to Rietveld_wiki? Maybe good time to change also the name.
But I think that the (a)social networks are not a good choice. Already because all what you post on Facebook may be used by anybody else for example for a publicity. Imagine that I will post one day a short twit (or how you call it?) what is the best way to describe a BH4 group in Topas. And Alan has a full right to use it in his publicity campaign saying that even Radovan is now using exclusively Topas and has abandoned Fox (there will be a new version soon thanks to Vincent). And the last point, which Alan raised immediately at the beginning of the discussion: When you create a new discussion forum (or how it's called?) on the Facebook dealing with Rietveld, what to do with the great archive existing in the mailing list? Have David thought about linking this archive to Facebook? Radovan Radovan Cerny Laboratoire de Cristallographie, DQMP Université de Genève 24, quai Ernest-Ansermet CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland Phone : [+[41] 22] 37 964 50, FAX : [+[41] 22] 37 961 08 mailto : radovan.ce...@unige.ch URL : http://www.unige.ch/sciences/crystal/cerny/rcerny.htm -----Message d'origine----- De : Alan Coelho [mailto:alancoe...@bigpond.com] Envoyé : mardi 9 juin 2015 12:04 À : Radovan Cerny; 'Jonathan WRIGHT'; rietveld_l@ill.fr Objet : RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook Radovan Interesting discussion, html may allow graphics but doesn't still mean e-mailing large files to everyone. Jon: the IUCR also has a facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/iucr.org Not recognizing the pull/power of facebook, twitter, Instagram etc… is akin to IBM not recognizing the power of personal computers, or like thinking that 3D printing is a fad or that drones is a toy or that the newspaper are here forever. It’s easy to agree with the thought that a small community like ours should not have many channels but not having pictures/graphics seems archaic. A 12 year old I know used a phone to take a 100Mbyte video and posted it on youtube; these are the file sizes being thrown about by kids. So great to have a mailing list, thanks Alan, but personally I would love to see a medium (I dot care what it is) that allows graphics. Cheers Alan From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] On Behalf Of Radovan Cerny Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2015 6:36 PM To: Jonathan WRIGHT; rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: RE: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook Jon, There is no problem to have pictures in the email. Just need to use HTML format for your email. But you have raised an important question: "public perceptions". Uni Geneva has already everythink: http://www.unige.ch/communication/diffuser/mediassociaux.html I hope we will not start to discuss this question now. Jan Rohlicek proposes to link email with (a)social networks. Simple (?) and constructive idea. Radovan Cerny Laboratoire de Cristallographie, DQMP Université de Genève 24, quai Ernest-Ansermet CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland Phone : [+[41] 22] 37 964 50, FAX : [+[41] 22] 37 961 08 mailto : radovan.ce...@unige.ch URL : http://www.unige.ch/sciences/crystal/cerny/rcerny.htm De : rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr [mailto:rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr] De la part de Jonathan WRIGHT Envoyé : mardi 9 juin 2015 10:16 À : rietveld_l@ill.fr Objet : Re: Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook Thanks Davide for this useful initiative, I have joined. I don't doubt the value of the Rietveld list but pictures are also useful. It was recently bought to my attention that funding may be related to "public perceptions" of research and for this reason we should pay attention to things like twitter. CERN have made a nice campaign recently with #RestartLHC and #13TeV. If you want to, you can read tweets about powder diffraction already: http://twitter.com/icddicdd/status/607995709426647040 ... or find a nice job: http://twitter.com/JobborseDE/status/603031335234576384 The signal to noise ratio on twitter can be surprisingly good when following people like @MikeGlazer1 or @HelliwellJohn. If you don't want to read those things then that is fine too, at least none of it comes into your inbox. Cheers, Jon ( @jonwright76 ) On 08/06/2015 09:24, davide levy wrote: Good Morning I created the Powder Diffraction Discussion Group on Facebook, to speak about powder diffraction, Rietveld etc.. open for all use powder diffraction. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1087352967946225/ Davide
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Please do NOT attach files to the whole list <alan.he...@neutronoptics.com> Send commands to <lists...@ill.fr> eg: HELP as the subject with no body text The Rietveld_L list archive is on http://www.mail-archive.com/rietveld_l@ill.fr/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++