Thanks Matteo.
When people reply to questions, please could they post to the whole list,
not just to the person who asks. Matteo's question and Mathew's answer are
of general interest.
Alan

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, 10:21 Bianchini, Matteo (INT), <
matteo.bianch...@kit.edu> wrote:

> Dear Alan,
>
> here is the link that works, courtesy of Matthew Suchomel:
>
> http://www.cristal.org/DU-SDPD/programmes/
>
>
>
> I will reach out to Jean Laugier!
>
>
>
> Thanks again
>
>
>
> Matteo
>
>
>
> *From:* Alan W Hewat <alan.he...@neutronoptics.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 18, 2022 10:15 AM
> *To:* Bianchini, Matteo (INT) <matteo.bianch...@kit.edu>
> *Cc:* fil...@ill.fr; rietveld_l@ill.fr
> *Subject:* Re: Checkcell or similar
>
>
>
> Dear Matteo.
>
> Please could you post the link that works for CHEKCELL. The reason the
> links you posted don't work is not because you are in Germany:-) but
> because Lachlan Cranswick, who maintained them, died tragically. And the
> reason that there is no later version is because the author retired and
> left Grenoble. Perhaps you could write to him at <jean.laug...@free.fr>,
> tell him how much you appreciate CHEKCELL, and ask if he would release the
> source code so that it can be updated.
>
> Regards Alan
>
> ________________________________
> Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics
> Grenoble, FRANCE (from phone)
> alan.he...@neutronoptics.com
> +33.476984168 VAT:FR79499450856
> http://NeutronOptics.com/hewat
> _______________________________
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022, 09:01 Bianchini, Matteo (INT), <
> matteo.bianch...@kit.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear all
> Thanks for the many replies and suggestions.
>
> I had checked the links at ccp14, none of which works for me (which is why
> I specified I am in Germany :) )
> UK - http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/web-mirrors/lmgp-laugier-bochu/
> Canada - http://ccp14.sims.nrc.ca/ccp/web-mirrors/lmgp-laugier-bochu/
> Australia -
> ftp://ftp.minerals.csiro.au/pub/xtallography/ccp14/ccp/web-mirrors/lmgp-laugier-bochu/
>
> Matthew’s link works! Thanks! It seems it is the same version of chekcell
> I have. So nothing newer seems to exist. It’s a pity.
> I use FullProf a lot, but I don’t think it has something graphical like I
> am looking for. Fox too is very nice, but same issue, tests the space
> groups but does not let you “play” with them and the related extinctions.
>
> I Will keep looking at other softwares, like Jana, see what I find.
>
> Thank you all
>
> Matteo
>
>
>
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> *Da:* Alan W Hewat <alan.he...@neutronoptics.com>
> *Inviato:* giovedì 17 febbraio 2022 19:57:19
> *A:* fil...@ill.fr
> *Cc:* Bianchini, Matteo (INT)
> *Oggetto:* Re: Checkcell or similar
>
>
>
> Thanks Alain.
>
>
>
> I also sent my email to Juan. Perhaps FullProf is a bit more than Matteo
> needs for teaching. Your own interactive applications on
>
>
> https://www.ill.eu/users/support-labs-infrastructure/software-scientific-tools
>
>
> are more appropriate for that.
>
>
>
> There used to be more web based visual crystallography apps, but changing
> technology and rivalry has been the death of many, such as those based on
> Java.
>
>
>
> Bon courage in finding alternatives.
>
>
>
> Regards Alan
>
> ________________________________
> Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics
> Grenoble, FRANCE (from phone)
> alan.he...@neutronoptics.com
> +33.476984168 VAT:FR79499450856
> http://NeutronOptics.com/hewat
> _______________________________
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022, 18:32 filhol, <fil...@ill.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi Matteo and Alan,
>
>
>
> I never used CheckCell but I think that Jaen Laugier is stil reachable at <
> jean.laug...@free.fr>.
>
> CheckCell was probably developed with an 20 or 30 years old version of
> Delphi Pascal. If you can obtain the source code I have no idea if it would
> be easy to recompile it with a modern version of Delphi Pascal.
>
>
>
> May be the FullProf application of Juan Rodriguez-Carvajal <
> rodriguez-carva...@ill.fr> offers a suitable equivalent.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Alain
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 17 Feb 2022, at 18:06, Alan W Hewat <alan.he...@neutronoptics.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Matteo.
>
>
>
> Do you mean the old CHEKCELL
> http://ccp14.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/tutorial/lmgp/chekcellb.htm
>
> I am copying this to colleagues who may be able to help you.
>
>
> Regards Alan
>
> ________________________________
> Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics
> Grenoble, FRANCE (from phone)
> alan.he...@neutronoptics.com
> +33.476984168 VAT:FR79499450856
> http://NeutronOptics.com/hewat <http://neutronoptics.com/hewat>
> _______________________________
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022, 15:24 Bianchini, Matteo (INT), <
> matteo.bianch...@kit.edu> wrote:Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> I used in the past the checkcell program.
>
> I have a version more than 10 years old, and cannot find online a more
> recent one (or any site to actually download any version of the program
> from Germany).
>
>  - Does anyone know if a recent version exist, and where to find it?
>
> - Does anyone know an alternative software to use ? Note that this is
> mostly for teaching purposes; I know many programs can browse through all
> space groups and help find the best candidates. But I think checkcell had
> the advantage of being graphical, i.e. one could have the students play
> around with the different space groups and see what extinctions would exist
> and whether they would match the experimental data.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kind regards
>
> Matteo
>
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